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The discussion centers on creating a voltage-controlled resistor (VCR) circuit to emulate a thermistor for measuring voltage in a 24V DC battery backup system. The user specifies that the thermistor has a resistance of 37.8K at 24V, with an inverse relationship of 1V control change resulting in a -1K resistance change. The control voltage range is ideally between 6 to 42 volts, and the circuit must maintain separate grounds for the unit and control voltage. Suggestions include using a digital potentiometer as a potential solution for this application.

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I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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exclr8 said:
I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

After reading that 3 times, I still have no idea what you're doing.

Since you are measuring temperature, would it be safe to assume you're using some kind of microcontroller? Do you have a schematic? A set of instructions you're following?

You'll get much more help if you give people enough information to help you.
 
exclr8 said:
I have a unit that measures temp with a thermistor. I want to use it to measure voltage.
I am trying to build a circuit to emulate a thermistor. Here are the parameters.

24v control = 37.8K.
1v control change = -1k so there is an inverse relation ship.
Control voltage range = ideal is 6 to 42 volts but can be as tight as 12 to 28 volts.
The 3.5 volts is applied to the thermistor buy the unit.
The unit and control voltage cannot and should not share a common ground.

I have a basic knowledge of electronic but need some help getting started. I was thinking of using some sort of VCR or solid state pot.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Can you use a digital potentiometer as the basis for it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_potentiometer

http://images.google.com/images?rlz...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=5&ved=0CDUQsAQwBA

http://www.analog.com/en/digital-to-analog-converters/digital-potentiometers/products/index.html

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I can't imagine why you would want to emulate a thermistor?
Any circuit to do so would be vastly more complicated and expensive than just using a thermistor.

In saying you want to use your thermistor to measure voltage, do you mean you want to measure the TRUE RMS value of voltage using the heating of the thermistor?

This is a viable proposition.

Or is the use for stabilising the output voltage of an oscillator?

Using the thermistor to measure peak or average values is less so as the response curve is decidedly non-linear.
 
The unit has a microcontroller. It will measure temp for more than one area. I want to use one of the temp inputs to measure the voltage of a 24v DC battery backup system. I want 24.0 degrees on the unit to equal 24.0 volts in the backup system. Since the thermistor has a value of 37.8K at 24degrees I need the circuit to have the same value of 37.8K when the input voltage is 24V.
 
Most likely this can only be answered by an "old timer". I am making measurements on an uA709 op amp (metal can). I would like to calculate the frequency rolloff curves (I can measure them). I assume the compensation is via the miller effect. To do the calculations I would need to know the gain of the transistors and the effective resistance seen at the compensation terminals, not including the values I put there. Anyone know those values?

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