Volume Charge Density in a long Cylinder

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The problem involves a long solid cylinder with a uniform volume charge density and requires determining the enclosed charge within a cylindrical Gaussian surface located inside the cylinder. Participants are exploring the relationship between the enclosed charge and the total charge, as well as the implications of the Gaussian surface's position.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the enclosed charge to the total charge, questioning the definitions of q and Q. They express uncertainty about calculating the enclosed charge using the volume charge density and the geometry of the cylinder.
  • Some participants suggest focusing on the net charge inside the Gaussian surface and performing a volume integral over the charge density, while others express confusion regarding the typical examples seen in resources.
  • There are discussions about the differences in Gaussian surface placements in examples versus the current problem setup.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing resources and clarifying concepts related to Gaussian surfaces. There is recognition of the confusion stemming from differing examples and the specific setup of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of enclosed charge, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the Gaussian surface is within the charged cylinder, which differs from typical examples where the surface is outside. This has led to questions about the assumptions and definitions being used in the problem.

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I am never sure if I am on the right track when answering my homework problems. Anyway the problem involves a long solid cylinder of radius R and uniform charge distribution throughout its volume. We are supposed to choose a cylindrical gaussian surface of radius r and length L with r < R - so the gaussian surface is inside the cylinder. We are 1st supposed to determine q(enclosed) in terms of ρ (rho), L and r - and of course any other relevant constants. So first off - I am looking at the flux within the cylinder --- already I am nervous about this because I cannot think of how to imagine the flux within this cylinder... and then considering E ? So to further explain where I am at - since the cylinder is "very very long" I have capped off the gaussian cylinder inside the whole. 1st off - is q(enclosed) a ratio of the whole Q ? or is it constant within the cylinder (I don't think q = Q). I want to consider q/Q - where q = π(pi) r² L then Q = π R² L - then I want to take q/Q = (π(pi) r² L )/(π R² L ) - cancel the π(pi) and L to get q =(Qr²)/R² - then I wonder if I am getting anywhere = also does q = ρL - it shows in my book that q = λL (λ is linear charge density) and I don't know if it works for volume charge density too... :rolleyes: - feeling like a physics flunky...
 
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Thanks, but I've been there - the gaussian surface is always shown outside the original cylinder, that is why I am confused... :confused:
 
MtHaleyGirl said:
Thanks, but I've been there - the gaussian surface is always shown outside the original cylinder, that is why I am confused... :confused:

Recall that all you care about is the net charge INSIDE the Gaussian surface, so we can ignore anything outside the surface. To get the charge inside, just take the volume integral over the charge density.

-Dan
 
No No No! :smile: I've been to hyperphysics lots - the Gaussian surface is a cylinder within another cylinder. All of the examples I have seen the cylinder is used through a plane or around another cylinder. The Charged Cylinder is of radius R and the Gaussian surface is radius r r < R... Does that make sense? I'm no physics genius and when I am given a problem outside the regular examples I feel like my brain is being scrambled - - - thanks though
 
using vectors, i make the electric field E = -lamda/2pi(sqrt.[r^2-s^2])epsilon

r^2 = s^2 +(c-a)^2, (and b is c-a), therefore rearrange, (c-a)^2 is (r^2-s^2)

does this help?
 

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