Want to know correct answer for electric field + potential question

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving three point charges arranged on the y-axis. For part (a), the correct position on the x-axis where the electric potential is zero is determined to be d = √3a/3. In part (b), participants discuss calculating the electric field components at a point on the x-axis, noting the need to account for the contributions from both positive and negative charges. The net electric field expression is refined to include the correct components and angles. The conversation concludes with clarification on substituting trigonometric expressions for simplification.
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Homework Statement



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Three point charges are arranged on the y-axis as shown in the picture.

The charges are:
+q at (0,a)
-q at (0,0)
+q at (0,-a)

Any other charge or material is infinitely far away.

(a) Determine the point(s) on the x-axis where the electric potential due to this system of charges is zero.

(b) Determine the x and y components of the electric field at a point P on the x-axis distance x from the origin.

Homework Equations



V = {k}_{e}\frac{q}{r}

E = {k}_{e}\frac{q}{r^2}

The Attempt at a Solution



(a) The problem says the point(s) where potential is zero is must be on the x-axis so I know the y-coordinate is 0. I called the distance d, so my coordinate would be (d,0).

I make this equation:

0 = 2({k}_{e}\frac{q}{\sqrt{a^2+d^2}}) - {k}_{e}\frac{q}{d}<br />

And simplify/solve for d to get:

d = \frac{\sqrt{3}a}{3}

(b) For this part I guess I just need to express the E vector in terms of x, q, ke, and a.

Again I ignore any y components since the +q charges cancel in that direction.

To get the magnitude of the field vector from the (+) charges I plugged in the distance of P (using a right triangle with sides x and a) from the charge for r and doubled:

E = 2({k}_{e}\frac{q}{(\sqrt{a^2+x^2})^2})

and to get the x component multiplied that by:

{E}_{x} = \cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x}

Then I find the net to be (including E from the (-) charge):

{E}_{x net} = 2(\cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x})({k}_{e}\frac{q}{a^2+x^2}) - {k}_{e}\frac{q}_{x^2}

{E}_{x net} = \frac{2{k}_{e}q(\cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x})(x^2) - {k}_{e}q(a^2+x^2)}{(a^2+x^2)x^2}I feel ok about (a) but I might be wrong. As for (b), I have no idea if I'm right or not but I did try it multiple ways to get an equivalent solution. It just looks too complicated though. Please let me know if I have done these right.
 
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3a) d should have two values.

3b) What happened to the field due to the charge (-q)?
 
Thanks for the reply!

Ah yeah that makes sense for (a). It should be plus or minus then.

For (b), would the E from -q be -{k}_{e}\frac{q}_{x^2}?
 
altegron said:
and to get the x component multiplied that by:

{E}_{x} = \cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x}

Write cos theta = x/sqrt(x^2+a^2).

Then I find the net to be (including E from the (-) charge):

{E}_{x net} = 2(\cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x})({k}_{e}\frac{q}{a^2+x^2}) - {k}_{e}\frac{q}_{x^2}

That is correct now.
 
{E}_{x net} = 2(\cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x})({k}_{e}\frac{q}{a^2+x^2}) - {k}_{e}\frac{q}_{x^2}

can't you just replace (\cos\tan^{-1}\frac{a}{x}) with \frac{x}{\sqrt{(x^2+a^2)}}...or is that what shootingstar was saying
 
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