Weighted Sum in Taylor Expansion (Partial Derivatives)

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of a "weighted sum of the two squares" in the context of a Taylor expansion and its implications for partial derivatives. Participants are examining the relationship between two expressions and the reasoning behind the terminology used in the problem statement.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning the meaning of "weighted sum" and its relevance to the expressions presented. Some are exploring the implications of the squared terms being positive and how that relates to constraints on the weights. Others are considering alternative approaches, such as completing the square, to understand the problem better.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about the terminology and its implications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the expressions, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the "weighted sum" concept.

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There is a mention of the need for the right-hand side of the equation to remain positive, which raises questions about the assumptions being made regarding the variables involved. Participants are also grappling with the clarity of the problem statement and its terminology.

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Homework Statement



From step 1 to step 2, what do they mean by "Taking the weighted sum of the two squares " ?


I tried and expanded everything in step 2 and it ends up as the same as step 1 (as expected),



The Attempt at a Solution



I tried looking up "weighted sum" and " weighted sum of squares", I think the more closely related one is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lack-of-fit_sum_of_squares

I read it and tried to understand it but it looks as if what they are describing has no relation to what's in the book..
 

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You are overthinking it. It's just a convenient way of rewriting the first expression.
 
clamtrox said:
You are overthinking it. It's just a convenient way of rewriting the first expression.

I'm sorry but I feel that if that was the case it would simply be written as " the expression can be rewritten to a form as: " instead of "weighted sum of the two squares".
 
unscientific said:
I'm sorry but I feel that if that was the case it would simply be written as " the expression can be rewritten to a form as: " instead of "weighted sum of the two squares".

Do you at least agree that nothing magical has happened between the steps? The two expressions are equal.

The reason why you do this is you know always that the squared terms are positive. Then by requiring that R.H.S of the equation is always positive, you get useful constraints on the weights of the square terms. By requiring that
[tex]f_{xx}\left(\Delta x + \frac{f_{xy} \Delta y}{f_{xx}}\right)^2 + \left( f_{yy}-\frac{f_{xy}^2}{f_{xx}}\right) (\Delta y)^2 > 0[/tex]
for all [itex]\Delta x[/itex] and [itex]\Delta y[/itex] you see that [itex]f_{xx} > 0[/itex] by setting [itex]\Delta y = 0[/itex] and [itex]\left( f_{yy}-\frac{f_{xy}^2}{f_{xx}}\right)>0[/itex] by setting [itex]\Delta x = - \frac{f_{xy} \Delta y}{f_{xx}}[/itex]
 
clamtrox said:
Do you at least agree that nothing magical has happened between the steps? The two expressions are equal.

The reason why you do this is you know always that the squared terms are positive. Then by requiring that R.H.S of the equation is always positive, you get useful constraints on the weights of the square terms. By requiring that
[tex]f_{xx}\left(\Delta x + \frac{f_{xy} \Delta y}{f_{xx}}\right)^2 + \left( f_{yy}-\frac{f_{xy}^2}{f_{xx}}\right) (\Delta y)^2 > 0[/tex]
for all [itex]\Delta x[/itex] and [itex]\Delta y[/itex] you see that [itex]f_{xx} > 0[/itex] by setting [itex]\Delta y = 0[/itex] and [itex]\left( f_{yy}-\frac{f_{xy}^2}{f_{xx}}\right)>0[/itex] by setting [itex]\Delta x = - \frac{f_{xy} \Delta y}{f_{xx}}[/itex]

I was confused by the term " sum of weights of the squares" as I didn't know what it meant. I tried using a different approach of aiming to "complete the square" first with (Δx) then i arrived at the same results.
 

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