What Are the Key Concepts in Fluid Dynamics Homework?

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The discussion revolves around understanding key concepts in fluid dynamics, particularly the relationship between flow speed and the gradient of the stream function. Participants clarify that the speed of flow can be expressed as V^2 = u^2 + v^2 and emphasize the importance of expressing theta in terms of x and y to evaluate derivatives. The conversation highlights the need to set specific parameters, such as psi = 0 and theta = 66.8 degrees, to derive equations for y and x. Ultimately, the participant successfully applies these concepts to arrive at a solution, confirming the flow speed at given coordinates. This exchange illustrates the collaborative effort to grasp complex fluid dynamics principles.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start. I don't understand the question.
 
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Have you learned that the speed of the flow is proportional to the magnitude of the gradient of the stream function?
 
Chestermiller said:
Have you learned that the speed of the flow is proportional to the magnitude of the gradient of the stream function?
do you mean

V^2=u^2+v^2

where
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shreddinglicks said:
do you mean

V^2=u^2+v^2

where
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Yes. But you need to express theta in terms of x and y to evaluate these derivatives.(except, of course, far upstream).
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes. But you need to express theta in terms of x and y to evaluate these derivatives.(except, of course, far upstream).
So would it be better to use
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and make y = rsin(theta)
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes. But you need to express theta in terms of x and y to evaluate these derivatives.(except, of course, far upstream).
Wait, I see what you mean
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Chestermiller said:
Good.
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shreddinglicks said:
I'm not going to check your math. I leave it to you to get the math correct.
 
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Chestermiller said:
I'm not going to check your math. I leave it to you to get the math correct.
That's fine. I'm not here to learn math. Since I now have V^2 what do I do from here? I still don't understand the question I need to solve.
 
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You need to show that, at the x and y corresponding to theta = 66.8 degrees and psi = 0, the speed is the same as at y = 0, x = infinity
 
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Chestermiller said:
You need to show that, at the x and y corresponding to theta = 66.8 degrees and psi = 0, the speed is the same as at y = 0, x = - infinity
So I know at a large value of -x and y= o that my V^2 is equal to 1.

would it be appropriate to sub in
x=rcos(theta)
y=rsin(theta)
r=x^2+y^2
and then plug in 66.8 = theta
 
  • #13
shreddinglicks said:
So I know at a large value of -x and y= o that my V^2 is equal to 1.

would it be appropriate to sub in
x=rcos(theta)
y=rsin(theta)
r=x^2+y^2
and then plug in 66.8 = theta
You have to evaluate it at psi = 0.
 
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Chestermiller said:
You have to evaluate it at psi = 0.
Bernoulli eq?
 
  • #15
shreddinglicks said:
Bernoulli eq?
What about it?
 
  • #16
Chestermiller said:
What about it?
The only thing I can think of that would relate the velocity eq and pressure would be that. Is that what I should be using?
 
  • #17
shreddinglicks said:
The only thing I can think of that would relate the velocity eq and pressure would be that. Is that what I should be using?
No. You should be setting psi = 0 and theta = 66.8 degrees (in radians). This gives you an equation for y. Once you know y and theta, you know x.
 
  • #18
Chestermiller said:
No. You should be setting psi = 0 and theta = 66.8 degrees (in radians). This gives you an equation for y. Once you know y and theta, you know x.
I see exactly what you mean. I must be losing my mind thinking psi is pressure. I did exactly what you said and got x and y. I plugged into the the V^2 equation and got 1 as my answer.
 
  • #19
Thanks for helping me. I can sleep easy tonight. You are the man Chestermiller!
 
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