What Determines the Initial Conditions in Spring-Mass System Problems?

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The discussion revolves around understanding initial conditions in spring-mass system problems and the application of conservation laws. For the first question, the conclusion is that the motion must have started with at least one mass moving, ruling out the possibility of starting with a compressed spring. In the second question, the user calculates the mechanical energy lost during oscillation, arriving at a negative value, indicating a misunderstanding of energy conservation principles. The center of mass speed calculation in a collision scenario also presents confusion, with the user misapplying relative velocities. Overall, the thread highlights challenges in applying momentum and energy conservation concepts in spring-mass systems and collisions.
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21. A 2.0-kg block is attached to one end of a spring with a spring constant of 100N/m and a 4.0-kg block is attached to the other end. The blocks are placed on a horizontal frictionless surface and set into motion. At one instant the 2.0-kg block is observed to be traveling to the right with a speed of 0.50 m/s and the 4.0-kg block is observed to be traveling to the left with a speed of 0.30m/s. Since the only forces on the blocks are the force of gravity, the normal force of the surface, and the force of the spring, we conclude that:
A. the spring is compressed at the time of the observation
B. the spring is not compressed at the time of observation
C. the motion was started with the masses at rest
D. the motion was started with at least one of masses moving
E. the motion was started by compressing the spring


22. A 2.0-kg mass is attached to one end of a spring with a spring constant of 100 N/m and a 4.0-kg mass is attached to the other end. The masses are placed on a horizontal frictionless surface and the spring is compressed 10 cm. The spring is then released with the masses at rest and the masses oscillate. When the spring has its equilibrium length for the first time the 2.0-kg mass has a speed of 0.36 m/s. The mechanical energy that has been lost to the instant is:
A. zero
B. 0.31 J
C. 0.61 J
D. 0.81 J
E. 1.2J

Hi, I'm just having trouble understanding these two questions.

For 21, why cannot the motion have started by compressing the spring? I believe I understand why there must have been at least one mass moving, but I don't know why it cannot have began by an initial compression?


For 22, ΔM = Mf - Mi
Based on linear momentum, if pi = 0, then pf = 0; (2 kg)(0.36 m/s)/(4 kg) = v2 = 0.18 m/s
Mf = Kf since U = 0 J b/c there is no potential energy in the equilibrium position.
Mf = 1/2 [ (2kg)(0.36 m/s)2 + (4kg)(0.18 m/s)2 ] = 0.19 J

Now, the initial mechanical energy, Mi, equals just the spring potential energy, 1/2kx2 and that is 5 J

So, ΔM = Mf - Mi = 0.19 J - 5 J = -4.81 J and that is the amount of mechanical energy lost.

Please correct me where I've gone wrong and if you can, offer an explanation so I can follow along. :)

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