What Does Existence Truly Mean Beyond Its Definition?

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The discussion centers on the concept of existence, with participants expressing a desire for clarity rather than precise definitions. The conversation touches on philosophical implications, suggesting that existence is intertwined with language and perception. One participant humorously notes that existence could be viewed as a learning process, while another introduces the idea of existence as a local reduction in entropy. A notable quote about a fish's inability to comprehend water serves as a metaphor for understanding existence. The dialogue also explores whether a computer program can achieve conscious understanding, paralleling this with human self-awareness. Overall, the thread emphasizes the complexity and multifaceted nature of existence, inviting deeper contemplation rather than definitive answers.
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The recent topic is about existence.I do not want the precise deinition.But, want to know clearly, what does it mean.
 
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Kolahal Bhattacharya said:
The recent topic is about existence.I do not want the precise deinition.But, want to know clearly, what does it mean.
The amazing Wikipedia again has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence" even to this question.

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Like Madge, the astute manicurist, says, "You're soaking in it."

but I think this problem should go into the Philosophy forums, not Physics.
 
Yeah, Intro Physics is the place for homework questions, so I'm going to move this thread. Since it doesn't meet the Philosophy Guidelines I am going to move it to GD where you all can chit chat about existence.
 
Kolahal Bhattacharya said:
The recent topic is about existence.I do not want the precise deinition.But, want to know clearly, what does it mean.

Information, micro and macro.
 
I had a look at that wikipedia thread, my God existence is sentence structure, and discussing meaning in words, so before language we could not of existed!:wink: Ontology is obviously for pedants without any imagination, or am I missing something here? I must admit I couldn't read that link without losing focus on reality.

existence is not anything in that wikipedia article that much I do know.:biggrin:
 
Just substitute 'existence' for 'life' in the old saying; it's what happens while you're busy making other plans.
 
I have been around the sun 43 times and it appears to me that existence is some sort of learning process.
 
RAD4921 said:
I have been around the sun 43 times and it appears to me that existence is some sort of learning process.
I think you are just getting dizzy :smile: :smile:

I temporarily cause a local reduction in entropy, therefore I am. :biggrin:
 
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Kolahal Bhattacharya said:
The recent topic is about existence.I do not want the precise deinition.But, want to know clearly, what does it mean.

What isn't existence?





But seriously, here's a good quote that I find a bit of a mind-trip:

"A fish cannot comprehend the existence of water. He is too deeply immersed in it."

-Sir Oliver Lodge

Another good thought:
Can a computer program ever have a conscious understanding of the computer running it?
 
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Mech_Engineer said:
What isn't existence?





But seriously, here's a good quote that I find a bit of a mind-trip:

"A fish cannot comprehend the existence of water. He is too deeply immersed in it."

-Sir Oliver Lodge

Another good thought:
Can a computer program ever have a conscious understanding of the computer running it?

Depends on the program, with enough sophistication you may as well ask the question: does a human being have a conception of the neural circuitry that runs it? Think HAL for example from 2000: a space odyssey, he was self aware. Not beyond the bounds of conception is it?
 

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