What does find the dx/dy of (eq inside) for x>0 mean?

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The problem involves finding the derivative dy/dx for the equation xy² + xlnx = 4y, specifically for x > 0. The context suggests a focus on implicit differentiation and the behavior of the function under the constraint of x being positive.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the condition x > 0 and whether it requires substituting specific values for x to find corresponding y values. There is also a focus on the necessity of having an equal sign to define the function properly. Additionally, some participants question the correctness of the derivative calculation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made in the original post. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need for an equal sign in the equation to clarify the function definition.

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There is a mention of the natural logarithm function's domain, which is relevant to the discussion about the values of x being considered. Participants are also addressing potential errors in derivative calculations, indicating a need for careful verification of steps taken.

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Homework Statement



find dy/dx for the function xy^2+xlnx=4y for x>o

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xy^2+xlnx=4y

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I found the dy/dx to be "(y^2+lnx+1)/(4-x)=dx/dy"
What is it asking me to do with the x>0? Do they want me to plug in a value greater than 0 for x and solve for y? or what?
 
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The function ln, as you might know, isn't defined for values less than zero. Hence it is meaningless to speak of a function value, let alone a derivative there.

By the way, for this to make sense to me, you have to have an equal sign somewhere. Like xy^2+xlnx = 0 or something - else it's just a value, not anything to define a function y(x).
 
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By the way, for this to make sense to me, you have to have an equal sign somewhere. Like xy^2+xlnx = 0 or something - else it's just a value, not anything to define a function y(x).

Sorry, the eq is actually xy^2+xlnx=4y. Thank you for pointing out the mistake, I'll edit it out.
 
I get a slightly different answer. Check your derivative of the first term on the left.
 

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