What Happens When a Function is Invoked with a Negative Argument?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the function f(f(-1)) using a provided graph, without explicit function statements. Participants clarify that to find f(f(-1)), one must first determine f(-1) from the graph. It is established that f(-1) equals 2, leading to the conclusion that f(f(-1)) equals f(2), which is 1. The final result confirms that f(f(-1)) is 1, demonstrating the importance of interpreting graph values correctly. Understanding the relationship between the function and its graph is crucial for solving such problems.
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Homework Statement


I am trying solve a question which invokes a function f(…) and the argument of function is the same function with -1 as an argument i.e.

f(f(-1))

However the statements of the function are not provided. Instead a graph is provided which is uploaded. I can't understand which variable of the graph i.e. x or y will get this value of -1?

Somebody please guide me?

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f(f(-1))

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I can't understand what would happen when function f(-1) is invoked. What statements would be executed? Which variable of the graph would get -1?Somebody please guide me.
Zulfi.
 

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zak100 said:

Homework Statement


I am trying solve a question which invokes a function f(…) and the argument of function is the same function with -1 as an argument i.e.

f(f(-1))

However the statements of the function are not provided. Instead a graph is provided which is uploaded. I can't understand which variable of the graph i.e. x or y will get this value of -1?

Somebody please guide me?

Homework Equations


f(f(-1))

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't understand what would happen when function f(-1) is invoked. What statements would be executed? Which variable of the graph would get -1?
Find ##f(-1)##.
zak100 said:
Somebody please guide me.
Zulfi.
 
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zak100 said:

Homework Statement


I am trying solve a question which invokes a function f(…) and the argument of function is the same function with -1 as an argument i.e.

f(f(-1))

However the statements of the function are not provided. Instead a graph is provided which is uploaded. I can't understand which variable of the graph i.e. x or y will get this value of -1?

Somebody please guide me?

Homework Equations


f(f(-1))

The Attempt at a Solution


I can't understand what would happen when function f(-1) is invoked. What statements would be executed? Which variable of the graph would get -1?

Somebody please guide me.
Zulfi.
Your figure:
function-without-statement-etsp181-jpg.jpg

I suppose the graph is to be interpreted as being y = ƒ(x) .

Is that how such graphs tend to be treated in your course/book ?
 
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How do you simplify expressions like 5+(3*(4-1))? You start from the inside.
To evaluate f( f(-1) ), first find f(-1).
 
zak100 said:
However the statements of the function are not provided.
You don't need the function definition, since you have a graph of the function.

Follow the suggestion made by @Buffu.
 
Hi,
Thanks.
I suppose the graph is to be interpreted as being y = ƒ(x) .

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/function-without-statement.916696/
Based upon this rule:
y=f(-1)
Find the value of y for x=-1 from the graph
therefore y=2
Now f(f(-1)) = f(2)
Find the value of y for x=2 from the graph
therefore y= 1
Therefore answer of f(f(-1)) is 1.

This is correct.

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zak100 said:
y=f(-1)
Find the value of y for x=-1 from the graph
therefore y=2
Now f(f(-1)) = f(2)
Find the value of y for x=2 from the graph
therefore y= 1
Therefore f(f(-1)) is 1.
Your answer is correct, but you're writing a lot more than is necessary.
This is how I would do it.

From the graph, f(-1) = 2, and f(2) = 1,
so f(f(-1)) = f(2) = 1.​
 
Hi,
Thanks for improving my solution. God bless you.

Zulfi.
 
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