What Horizontal Distance Does a Block Cover After Launching Up an Incline?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the horizontal distance a block covers after being launched from an incline using a spring. The initial calculations involve determining the block's speed at the top of the incline and its acceleration due to gravity and friction. Participants highlight the need to consider both the ascent and descent times to accurately calculate the total time of flight for the projectile motion. The correct approach involves breaking down the motion into x and y components to find the horizontal distance. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the importance of thorough calculations and understanding the physics principles involved.
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Homework Statement


A spring with a spring constant = 1000 N/m is compressed 0.20 m then launches a block of mass 200 g. The horizontal surface is frictionless and the coefficient of kinetic friction with the inline is 0.15.
What horizontal distance does the block cover while in the air after it takes off at the top of the incline?
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The Attempt at a Solution


deltaK + deltaUg + deltaUs = 0
(1/2mv^2f -1/2mv^2i) + 0 + (1/2kx^2f - 1/2kx^2i) = 0
1/2mv^2f = 1/2kx^2i
v = sqrt(kx^2/m)
v = 14.14 m/s

Distance up incline:
x = 2.5m/sin50
=3.264 m

Acceleration:
-mgsin0 - ukmgcos0 = ma
a = -gsin50-(0.15)(-9.81)cos50
a = 6.562

Speed at the top:
v^2 = vi^2 +2ad
v = sqrt[14.14^2 + 2(6.562)(3.264)]
v = 15.58 m/s

I'm not sure what the next step would be (also not sure if the above steps are correct).
To find horizontal distance covered would I have to find the horizontal time and then using speed = distance/time solve for distance?

Thanks =]
 

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How can the speed at the top be greater than the speed at the bottom?
 
paisiello2 said:
How can the speed at the top be greater than the speed at the bottom?
Oops I think I got some of the signs wrong

Acceleration:
-mgsin0 - ukmgcos0 = ma
a = -gsin50-(0.15)(9.81)cos50
a = -8.456 m/s^2

so velocity at the top:
v^2 = vi^2 +2ad
v = 14.14^2 + 2(-8.452)(3.264)
v = 12.03 m/s
 
OK, much better.

Your idea to find the horizontal distance might not work as you stated it. Can you try something else along the same idea?
 
paisiello2 said:
OK, much better.

Your idea to find the horizontal distance might not work as you stated it. Can you try something else along the same idea?
At max height v = 0
Time to reach max height:
t = visin0/g
t = 12.03sin50/9.81
t = 0.9394 seconds

x= xo + vit
x = 0 + (12.03)(0.9394)
x = 11.3 m
 
Good try but you made two mistakes:
1) The time t you calculated is only the time for the block to reach the maximum height. What about the time it takes to come back down?
2) What direction is vi going in?
 
paisiello2 said:
Good try but you made two mistakes:
1) The time t you calculated is only the time for the block to reach the maximum height. What about the time it takes to come back down?
2) What direction is vi going in?

Would I have to find the time of flight for the whole range of the parabola first?
time of flight:
y = yo + 1/2gt^2
2.5 = 0 + 1/2(9.81)t^2
t = 0.7143 s

Horizontal distance:
x= xo + vit
x = 0 + (12.03)(0.7143)
x = 8.6 m
 
No, you break it into separate x and y components. You started off right in your first attempt but didn't finish it for some reason.
 
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