What is the acceleration of each block?

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The discussion centers on calculating the acceleration of two blocks connected by a rope on a frictionless surface, one with a mass of 35 kg on a 25-degree incline and the other with a mass of 20 kg on a 40-degree incline. The initial approach involved using gravitational force components to find acceleration, leading to confusion about whether to cancel the masses. It was clarified that while the forces due to gravity can be subtracted, the masses should not be canceled out when calculating net force, as they play different roles in the equations. The correct method involves determining the net accelerating force from both blocks and dividing by their combined mass to find the common acceleration. Understanding when to cancel masses in such calculations is crucial for accurate results.
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A pair of blocks are connected by a massless rope and placed on a frictionless surface. The diagram shows the situation at the instant the blocks are released. The left side has a mass of 35 kg and an incline of 25 degrees to the horizontal. The right side has a mass of 20 kg and an incline of 40 degrees to the horizontal.

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My attempt was solving each blocks acceleration by doing
Σf(+x)= Fgsin(theta)=ma
fg = mg there fore mgsin(theta)=ma
the masses cancel out leaving
gsin(theta)=a
so acc of block 1 =
(9.8m/s^2)(sin(25))=4.142 m/s^2

Should I not be canceling the masses out?

Would a better approach be taking mgsin(25)-mgsin(40)/55 = 0.345s?
 
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The two blocks have to have the same acceleration because of the rope.

Work out the net accelerating force on the pair as the difference between the accel forces on each block - since they are pulling in opposite directions.

Then divide by the combined mass.
 
andrewkirk said:
The two blocks have to have the same acceleration because of the rope.

Work out the net accelerating force on the pair as the difference between the accel forces on each block - since they are pulling in opposite directions.

Then divide by the combined mass.
So, You're saying

a = m1gsin(theta)-m(ofblock2)gsin(theta)/m(of blk1)+m(blk2) would be the correct approach.

Could you be able to tell me when it would be appropriate to cancel out the masses? in the mgsin(theta) or mgcos(theta)= ma equation only leaving gsin(theta)= a ?
 
siimplyabi said:
So, You're saying

a = m1gsin(theta)-m(ofblock2)gsin(theta)/m(of blk1)+m(blk2) would be the correct approach.

Could you be able to tell me when it would be appropriate to cancel out the masses? in the mgsin(theta) or mgcos(theta)= ma equation only leaving gsin(theta)= a ?
Also, thank you for your response. I appreciate it.
 
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by 'cancel out the masses'. The masses have two different roles in such setups. First, they generate force, via gravity. Second, they are the denominator by which one divides the net force.

In this case, the contributions of the two masses are subtracted in the first role (after adjusting for the different angles) and added in the second role.
 
andrewkirk said:
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by 'cancel out the masses'. The masses have two different roles in such setups. First, they generate force, via gravity. Second, they are the denominator by which one divides the net force.

In this case, the contributions of the two masses are subtracted in the first role (after adjusting for the different angles) and added in the second role.

Okay, thank you. I understand what you're telling me. I was just curious as to why I have seen some people refer to canceling out the masses when looking for acceleration of one object. But you've answered my question so thanks!
 
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