What is the acceleration of each mass in a pulley system with two masses?

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In a pulley system with two masses, m1 and m2, the acceleration of each mass can be derived using the equations of motion and the relationship between their accelerations. The discussion highlights the equations F=m1a and F=m2a, leading to expressions for a1 and a2 in terms of tension T. A key point is the relationship |a1|=2|a2|, indicating that if a1 is downward, a2 is upward, which affects the signs in the equations. The final derived formula for a2 is a2=g*(1-2m1)/(m2+4m1), but there is a noted discrepancy with the textbook answer, suggesting a potential error in the calculations. The conversation emphasizes careful handling of terms and units when solving for acceleration in such systems.
devanlevin
2 masses are tied in the followin configuaration, the 1st with a mass of m1 the 2nd mass of m2, pulleys and ropes have no mass or friction.

what is the acceleration of each mass, using only parameters g, m1, and m2

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not too much i can see from this, i know that |a1|=2|a2|,
i think that
1 F=m1a=m1g-T
a1=g-T/m1

2 F=m2a=m2g-2T
a2=g-2t/m2

not sure about those though,
 
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looks right to me.
 
So far, so good. But now you need to combine all three equations to solve for a1 & a2 in terms of the given parameters. Hint: Careful with signs. If a1 is down, a2 must be up.
 
a1=-2*a2,

a1=g-T/m1

a2=g-2t/m2
-------------------
T=m1(g-a1)=m1(g+2a2)

a2=g-[2m1(g+2a2)]/m2
m2a2=g-(2m1g)-(4m1a2)

a2(m2+4*m1)=g(1-2*m1)

a2=g*(1-2m1)/(m2+4m1)

is that correct,?? the answer in my textbook is similar, either a mistake on their behalf or I am missing something,, their answer is

a2=g*(m2-2m1)/(m2+4m1)
 
devanlevin said:
a2=g-[2m1(g+2a2)]/m2
m2a2=g-(2m1g)-(4m1a2)
You made an error in this step. Note how the terms in your last equation all have the same units--except one. (When you multiplied by m2, you did not do it completely.)
 
thanks
 
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