What is the Angular Velocity of the Runner and Turntable System?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular velocity of a runner and a turntable system, given specific parameters such as mass, velocity, and moment of inertia. The initial calculation for the runner's angular velocity was found to be 1.125 rad/s. However, an error was identified regarding the direction of rotation, as the turntable rotates opposite to the runner. After correcting for this by using a negative value for the turntable's angular velocity, the revised calculation yielded an angular velocity of approximately 0.956 rad/s. The importance of considering the direction of rotation in angular momentum calculations was emphasized.
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Homework Statement


A runner of mass 51.0 kg runs around the edge of a horizontal turntable mounted on a vertical, frictionless axis through its center. The runner's velocity relative to the Earth has magnitude 3.60 m/s. The turntable is rotating in the opposite direction with an angular velocity of magnitude 0.160 rad/s relative to the earth. The radius of the turntable is 3.20m , and its moment of inertia about the axis of rotation is 79.0 kg*m^2.


Homework Equations


w=v/r
I1w1=I2w2


The Attempt at a Solution


okay first we are given the veocity of the runner, to determine his angular velocity its just
w1=vrunner/rtable=3.6/3.2=1.125 rad/s

I1(runner)=mr^2=51.0*3.2^2=522.24 kg*m^2

now using the conversation of angular momentum

I1w1+I2w2=(I1+I2)w2'

the w and I provided in the problem statement can be used as w2 & I2 respectivly and we can now solve for w2' which is

I1w1+I2w2/(I1+I2)=w2'

subbing in all the values

(522.24*1.125)+(79.0*0.160)/(522.24+79.0)=600.16/601.24=0.9982=0.988(sig figs)

Now the problem I'm having with this is that I still receive an error with this answer and I've been through my work half a dozen times and I don't believe I made any rounding answers so if anyone could tell me what I am doing wrong I would be very thankful.
 
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Hi anubis01,

anubis01 said:

Homework Statement


A runner of mass 51.0 kg runs around the edge of a horizontal turntable mounted on a vertical, frictionless axis through its center. The runner's velocity relative to the Earth has magnitude 3.60 m/s. The turntable is rotating in the opposite direction with an angular velocity of magnitude 0.160 rad/s relative to the earth. The radius of the turntable is 3.20m , and its moment of inertia about the axis of rotation is 79.0 kg*m^2.


Homework Equations


w=v/r
I1w1=I2w2


The Attempt at a Solution


okay first we are given the veocity of the runner, to determine his angular velocity its just
w1=vrunner/rtable=3.6/3.2=1.125 rad/s

I1(runner)=mr^2=51.0*3.2^2=522.24 kg*m^2

now using the conversation of angular momentum

I1w1+I2w2=(I1+I2)w2'

the w and I provided in the problem statement can be used as w2 & I2 respectivly and we can now solve for w2' which is

I1w1+I2w2/(I1+I2)=w2'

subbing in all the values

(522.24*1.125)+(79.0*0.160)/(522.24+79.0)=600.16/601.24=0.9982=0.988(sig figs)

I have not checked all of your numbers, but remember that the runner and platform are rotating in opposite direction. What has to be changed here?
 
Oh so then since the table is rotating in the opposite direction of the runner w2=-0.160 rad/s

I1w1+I2w2/(I1+I2)=w2'

subbing in the values

(522.24*1.125)+(79*-0.160)/(522.24+79)=574.88/601.24
w2'=0.95615=0.956(sig figs)

Thanks for the help, I would have never have caught that error by myself.
 
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