What is the ΔG° for the ionization of water at 50C?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the standard Gibbs free energy change (ΔG°) for the ionization of water at 50°C, where the pH of pure water is noted to be 6.55. Participants clarify that to find ΔG°, the equilibrium constant (Keq) can be derived from the hydronium ion concentration, calculated as [H+] = 10^[-6.55]. Using this concentration, Keq is determined to be 7.94*10^-14. The calculation for ΔG° yields a value of 81.00 kJ/mol, assuming the process is at equilibrium at this temperature. The overall consensus is that the calculations appear correct under the assumption of equilibrium.
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Homework Statement


The pH of pure water is temperature dependent, for example it is 6.55 at 50 C. Determine ΔG° for the ionization of water at 50C


Homework Equations


ΔG=ΔG°+RTln(Q)

at eqm ΔG=0
q=Keq
pure water:
pH 7.00 at 25C


The Attempt at a Solution


Not sure if the process is at eqm at 50C

but if it was you could just use
ΔG°=-RTln(Keq)
and use the pH to get the keq and you end up with 40.5KJ/mol which doesn't seem right

what is the difference between ΔG° and ΔGf°

thanks
 
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How exactly did you get to your answer? From the pH find the hydronium ion concentration then deduce the Keq by writing its equation in both equation and reaction form and plugging in the hydronium ion value.
 
[H+] = 10^[-6.55] = 2.8*10^-7 = [OH-] since it is pure water?

so keq= [2.8*10^-7]^2 = 7.94*10^-14

ΔG°=-(8.31450)(273+50)ln(7.94*10^-14)

= 81.00 KJ mol-

is that correct, are we sure that it is in an equilbrium at 50C?

thanks again
 
beneakin said:
[H+] = 10^[-6.55] = 2.8*10^-7 = [OH-] since it is pure water?

so keq= [2.8*10^-7]^2 = 7.94*10^-14

ΔG°=-(8.31450)(273+50)ln(7.94*10^-14)

= 81.00 KJ mol-

is that correct, are we sure that it is in an equilbrium at 50C?

thanks again

We are assuming equilibrium , your work seems fine.
 
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