What is the distance between the motion sensor and the cart

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an ultrasonic motion sensor measuring the distance to a cart on a low-friction track. The problem includes two parts: calculating the distance based on the time of an echo and addressing the impact of a temperature change on the speed of sound and subsequent distance measurement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the formula D=(v*t)/2 for calculating distance, with one participant noting a successful calculation for the first part of the problem.
  • Questions arise regarding the correct application of the speed of sound in relation to temperature changes, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations for the second part.
  • There is a suggestion to verify the speed of sound based on the temperature increase rather than using a static value.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing confusion about the calculations related to the second part of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to adjust the speed of sound based on temperature, indicating a productive direction for resolving the misunderstanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of using specific values for the speed of sound and time, while also grappling with the implications of temperature changes on their calculations. There is a noted lack of consensus on the correct approach for the second part of the problem.

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Homework Statement


a.) The ultrasonic motion sensor sends pulses of the ultrasound toward a cart on the low-friction track and determines the distance by the time an echo takes to return. The temperature in the lab is equal to 20 °C. What is the distance between the motion sensor and the cart, if the reflected echo was recorded after 4.17 ms (1 ms = 0.001 s)?

b.) The velocity of sound in air is a function of temperature and increases by 0.6 m/s for every degree Celsius (°C) of temperature increase. The temperature in the lab has increased by = 6.11°C, but students did not noticed that change and they were using the sound velocity value for 20°C (343 m/s). The result of the measurements was incorrect. What is the apparent distance for the increased temperature?


Homework Equations


D=(v*t)/2


The Attempt at a Solution


I got the first answer right, getting 0.715781. I tried using the same equation for the second question, but got nothing. Help?
 
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Mr. Goosemahn said:

Homework Statement


a.) The ultrasonic motion sensor sends pulses of the ultrasound toward a cart on the low-friction track and determines the distance by the time an echo takes to return. The temperature in the lab is equal to 20 °C. What is the distance between the motion sensor and the cart, if the reflected echo was recorded after 4.17 ms (1 ms = 0.001 s)?

b.) The velocity of sound in air is a function of temperature and increases by 0.6 m/s for every degree Celsius (°C) of temperature increase. The temperature in the lab has increased by = 6.11°C, but students did not noticed that change and they were using the sound velocity value for 20°C (343 m/s). The result of the measurements was incorrect. What is the apparent distance for the increased temperature?


Homework Equations


D=(v*t)/2


The Attempt at a Solution


I got the first answer right, getting 0.715781. I tried using the same equation for the second question, but got nothing. Help?

Please post the details of your work; we will look for errors. Thanks.
 
For the first one, I plugged in the velocity (343.3), and the time (4.17 ms, which turns to 0.00417 seconds) and carried out the formula.

D = (343.3*0.00417)/2 = 0.7157805

For the second one, I tried using the same equation and I plugged in 0.6 for V and 26.11 for time, but I got an incorrect answer.

D = (0.6*(6.11/0.6))/2 = 3.05500.

I'm pretty sure I'm doing something wrong regarding the time, but I could be doing everything wrong, quite honestly. I don't know what is the correct equation for this, but that's how I tried solving it.
 
You cannot simply close your eyes and plug numbers into formulas.
Use the numbers given for the temperature change to compute the correct speed of sound for the lab temperaure. Then use the corrected speed of sound in the given equation.
 

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