What is the eccentricity of an orbit such that Vp = 2Va?

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The discussion revolves around determining the eccentricity of an orbit where the velocity at periapsis is twice that at apoapsis. Participants are examining the relationship between eccentricity and orbital velocities, referencing a specific exam question and the provided solution.

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  • Participants are comparing their calculations of eccentricity, with some arriving at e = 1/3 and others questioning the professor's provided solution of e = 3/5. They discuss the use of the vis viva equation and the eccentricity formula involving semi-major and semi-minor axes.

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There is an ongoing examination of the professor's solution, with multiple participants expressing confusion and suggesting that the professor may have made a mistake. Some participants are considering approaching the professor to clarify the discrepancies in their calculations.

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Participants note that the problem is based on an exam question, and there is a concern about the potential impact of the professor's solution on students' grades. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct eccentricity value, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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Summary:: A question on a recent exam was, "At what eccentricity does an orbit experience a velocity at periapsis that is twice the velocity an apoapsis?" I don't know why the provided solution is correct.

On a recent exam, one of the questions was "At what eccentricity does an orbit experience a velocity at periapsis that is twice the velocity an apoapsis?"

In the exam solutions, the given answer is e = 3/5. with the following as the justification:

e + 1 = 4 - 4e
e = 3/5

I'm not sure where the professor got this relation. When I attempt to solve this problem I end up with e = 1/3. My work is attached. Am I missing something or is the professor wrong? I emailed her and she simply said to check my derivation. I've solved it with the vis viva equation as well and still came out to 1/3. Other students have also reported that they got 1/3.

Thanks in advance!
 

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I did it using ##e=\sqrt{1-\frac{b^2}{a^2}}## and got the same answer as you. You have the right to learn from your teacher how to do it correctly. I think it's time to show her your solution and say you couldn't find anything wrong with it. Then ask her what equation she used. It's entirely possible that she made a calculational mistake which she will find out once you ask. You will be doing yourself and your classmates a favor.
 
I did it using ##e=\sqrt{1-\frac{b^2}{a^2}}## and got the same answer as you. I think it's time to show her your solution and couldn't find anything wrong then ask her what formula she used. It's entirely possible that she made a mistake. As her student, you have the right to learn from her how to do it correctly.
 
kuruman said:
I did it using ##e=\sqrt{1-\frac{b^2}{a^2}}## and got the same answer as you. I think it's time to show her your solution and couldn't find anything wrong then ask her what formula she used. It's entirely possible that she made a mistake. As her student, you have the right to learn from her how to do it correctly.
Thanks for the reply and for solving it through for yourself. I think I will talk to her because you're right, there's no reason other's should be losing points over this or be confused by it.
 
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I would give twice full credit to the first student who pointed a mistake like this to me on a test. It didn't happen often but encouraged students to speak up if they perceived something wrong.
 
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I also get ##e=1/3##. Think perhaps the professor missed the square on the right hand side of
$$\frac{v_p^2}{v_a^2} = \left(\frac{1+e}{1-e}\right)^2$$
 
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