What is the Force at Pin E in a Frame and Machine Analysis?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the force at pin E in a frame and machine analysis involving a mass of 515 kg acting through point H. The initial approach involves finding the moment about point D to determine the reaction at G, resulting in a force of 5205 N. To find the forces at E, the IKE member is isolated, and equilibrium equations are applied to sum forces around E. There is confusion regarding the components of force F_IG and the correct application of angles in calculations, particularly concerning the use of cos(30 degrees). Participants confirm the approach and suggest corrections to the equations used for accurate results.
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Homework Statement



Find the force acting at pin E

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a = 53.0 mm, b = 212 mm, c = 318 mm, d = 106 mm, and e = 371 mm.

A mass of 515kg acts through H.

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The Attempt at a Solution



By finding the moment about point D, we can find the reaction at G, and since GI is a two force member the same force (opposite sign) acts at the other end, on pin I.

F_G = \frac {(F_H \times 2b) }{d_1}

where d_1 = (2c+d) sin (180 - Atan (\frac{c}{d}))

Solving this part I get 5205N, I know this is correct.

To find the forces at E isolate the IKE member. Sum the forces about E, to find the reaction JK then use equilibrium equations to find the x and y forces at E.

<br /> F_{GIx} = 5205 cos (56.31)<br />
<br /> F_{GIy} = 5205 sin (56.31)<br />
<br /> M_E = (F_{GIy} \times 2a) + (F_{GIx} \times \frac {2a}{cos(30)})<br />

This next part I'm having trouble with, can I simply break up the components of F_{IG} and then have them act at I? With opposite sign of course.

I've bee working with the assumption that JK acts perpendicular to EI, is this correct?
 
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julz127: The answer to both of your last two questions is yes. Dividing 2*a by cos(30 deg) in your last equation currently seems wrong, unless I am misinterpreting. Check that. Also, your last equation seems to erroneously omit F_JK.
 
Yeah, last equation should have been:

F_{JK} \times \frac {a} {\cos(30)} = (F_{GIy} \times 2a) + (F_{GIx} \times 2a\tan(30)
 
Hint 1: Regarding your equation in post 3, are you sure about 30 deg? Check that.
 
Oh dammit. :P

Do you know how long I spent on this question, before giving up and clicking "show answer"?

Thanks anyway. At least I can do it now.
 
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