What is the Initial Velocity of a Ball Thrown off a Cliff?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the initial velocity of a ball thrown off a cliff, given its final velocity after two seconds. The final velocity is measured at 24 m/s directed at 45 degrees below the horizontal. Participants express confusion over the problem's wording, particularly regarding the use of compass directions in a vertical context. They agree that the question lacks clarity but attempt to break down the velocity components, with some concluding that the ball's horizontal speed could be 24 m/s if thrown horizontally. The challenge lies in determining the initial horizontal velocity component while neglecting air resistance and considering the vertical acceleration due to gravity.
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Some dude on a cliff throws a ball with an unknown initial velocity. The ball is in motion for 2seconds before its instant velocity is mesured, being 24m/s [E 45 S]. Determine its initial velocity.

i got

g= -9,8
t= 2
instV= 24
iV=? Vx2= 24cos45 = 17m/s
Vy2= 24sin45 = 17m/s
9,8=(17 - Vy1)/2...Vy2=2,6m/s

and that's all i can get, i have the y axe vector for the initial velocity and i can't seem to figure out anything further...help needed! lol
 
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Sounds like a poorly worded question. If on a cliff, then what is E 45 S? Those are horizontal plane directions. I am confused also.
 
well i am assuming they mean 45 degrees under the horizontal axe of the top of the cliff
 
I agree with civil_dude, the question is poorly worded, unless the problem has redefined the compass orientations. N, S, E, W normally refer to directions (lateral) normal to the local gravity field, which is vertical (elevation). E45S represents a vertical plane, in that orientation.

On the other hand,

if the velocity has no vertical component and is horizontal, pointing in that direction, then one has a horizontal speed of 24 m/s at 2 seconds, which would be at the top of an arc. So it would be 48 m away and would come back to same elevation 2 sec later for a range of 96 m.

Can one determine the altitude after 2 seconds, i.e. one needs to determine the angle the ball is thrown.

One may neglect air resistance.
 
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