What is the magnitue of the average Force from the wall stopping it?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average force exerted by a wall on a bullet and the speed of a girl sliding down a playground slide. For the bullet, the user attempts to apply kinematic equations but struggles with the acceleration calculation, leading to confusion about the resulting force. In the second question, the user is unsure how to incorporate friction and energy changes to find the girl's speed at the bottom of the slide. Suggestions include checking units and using the work-energy theorem to account for non-conservative forces. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the principles of physics in problem-solving.
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What am I doing wrong?

Question:

A 41 g bullet, with horizontal velocity of 496 m/s, stops 13cm within a soid wall. What is the magnitue of the average Force from the wall stopping it?

This is how i tried to solve it

Vi = 496, Vf=0, and Xf-Xi=.13m

So Vf^2=Vi^2+2a(Xf-Xi)

Which = 0 = 246016+2a(.13)

solve for acceleration you get -946215...

F=m(a)...so i did (-946215)(41) which does not equal the answer? Am i doing anything wrong?


2nd Question:

A girl whose weight is 264 N slides down a 5.8 playground slide that makes an angle of 20degree with the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.10. If she starts at the top with a speed of 0.457 m/s, what is her speed at the bottom?

This is how i tried to slove it

W= change in U + change in K + change in Thermal

Thermal = 143.98 (i won't show my calculations cause i am 100% sure this is righ)
so..
F(d)= -mgh +(1/2)mv^2 - (1.2)m(.457^2) +143.89

After you plug in all your variables, you have two unkowns,velocity and W.. Provided i did the setup right, how do i figure out the velocity of i don't know the magnitude of her force?
 
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#1: Check your units (41g = .041 kg)

#2. Work-energy theorem:

\Delta K + \Delta U = W_{nc}
K_i = \frac{mv_i^2}{2}
K_f = \frac{mv_f^2}{2}
U_f = 0 (your choice of datum)
U_i = mg(d\sin \theta)
W_{nc} = -fd

where
d = 5.8 m; length of the slide
\theta = 20^\circ; angle of slide
f = μ N; friction force
μ = 0.10; coefficient of friction
N = mg\cos\theta; normal force
 
inst the worky - energy theorem change in K + change in U + change in Thermal (since there is friction?) = W
 
OK,

How are you computing the "change in thermal energy" and what is your value for W?
 


Originally posted by nemzy
Question:

A 41 g bullet, ...
...
This is how i tried to solve it

... Vf^2=Vi^2+2a(Xf-Xi)
...
solve for acceleration you get -946215...
...
How do you know that the acceleration is constant?




Originally posted by nemzy
2nd Question:

A girl whose weight is ...
I wouldn't do it that way. I would use the kinematic equation that you are trying to use for the first question.
 
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