What is the Maximum Angle for a Crutch to Not Slip on the Ground?

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The discussion focuses on determining the maximum angle at which crutches can be positioned without slipping, given a static friction coefficient of 0.90. The user initially struggles with the balance of forces acting on the crutches and the person’s weight. They clarify that the upward forces include the normal force from the ground and the vertical components of the crutches. After some back and forth, they realize that the forces from the crutches are components of the person's weight rather than external forces. The correct approach involves using the equation tan(θ) = μ, leading to the conclusion that θ can be calculated as tan^(-1)(0.9).
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Homework Statement


The person in the drawing is standing on crutches. Assume that the force exerted on each crutch by the ground is directed along the crutch, as the force vectors in the drawing indicate. If the coefficient of static friction between a crutch and the ground is 0.90, determine the largest angle θMAX that the crutch can have just before it begins to slip on the floor.

crutches.PNG


Homework Equations


Fup= Fdown
Fright= Fleft
Fnet=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I figured the for each crutch
Fy = N= 1/2mg + FcosΘ
Fx= μsN=FsinΘ
But I end up with mg and no way to eliminate it?

I know I am missing some important detail- but as with many force problems, I can't visualize it.

Thanks
 
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It appears from the picture that the person is standing on one of his legs in addition to the two crutches. So wouldn't there be 3 upward forces: normal force on his leg, and 2F cos ##\theta##?
 
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Does that mean that because he is standing- his weight isn't a factor in the upwards forces- because it gets canceled out? and the only net force is the vertical component of the crutch?
 
Upon thinking some more, assuming that he's supporting himself on one leg plus 2 crutches doesn't seem to help. For the moment, let's assume that he's supporting himself entirely on the two crutches only. With this assumption, let's take a look at the vertical net force:

Fnet(y) = 0 = 2F cos ##\theta## - mg

Now, I'm unsure how you derived the following: Fy = N= 1/2mg + FcosΘ. Can you explain your thought process?
 
I realized my mistake. SO I was assuming that the F of the crutches are like an external force. But its just a component of the mg. So

I set it up as μmgsinθ=mgcosθ -> .9 tan-1= θ

Thanks.
 
----md said:
I realized my mistake. SO I was assuming that the F of the crutches are like an external force. But its just a component of the mg. So

I set it up as μmgsinθ=mgcosθ -> .9 tan-1= θ

Thanks.

Just a sec, ##.9 tan^{-1}= θ## isn't a valid equation. Do you mean ##tan^{-1}(.9)=\theta##?
 
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