What is the speed of the bicycle?

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a bicycle in a scenario involving integration and motion equations. Participants explore the relationship between velocity, acceleration, and distance during different phases of motion, particularly focusing on a deceleration phase.

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  • Participants discuss using basic integration and the polynomial rule, while some express difficulty in applying equations of motion. Questions arise about the integration process, the use of constants, and the implications of initial conditions on the motion.

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  • #31
PeroK said:
I thought the bicycle started ##17m## behind the car at ##t = 0##?

##26 m/s## would be a better guess.
Be realistic. How can a bicycle go at that speed?
 
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  • #32
brochesspro said:
Be realistic. How can a bicycle go at that speed?
Perhaps it's Mark Cavendish?
 
  • #33
PeroK said:
Perhaps it's Mark Cavendish?
Who is he?
 
  • #35
brochesspro said:
Who is he?
Never mind, not even he can ride a bicycle at that speed.
 
  • #36
brochesspro said:
How about https://drive.google.com/file/d/19XcGYjYZOe_M2mPN9nujJ7JuldeHovlk/view?usp=sharing?
Can you open this link?
 
  • #37
brochesspro said:
Can you open this link?
You need to post some Latex or, at least, an image of your work.
 
  • #38
It has an image, if you can open it.
 
  • #39
brochesspro said:
It has an image, if you can open it.
You need to post your solution in this thread; not a link to an external site.
 
  • #40
PeroK said:
You need to post your solution in this thread; not a link to an external site.
Ok, but is that a rule?
 
  • #41
brochesspro said:
Ok, but is that a rule?
Yes.
 
  • #42
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  • #43
Then what is the "Insert link" button used for?
 
  • #45
I added the 12 seconds by mistake. I should have added 1 second for the phase where the speed is constant.
 
  • #46
PeroK said:
There are a few mistakes there. ##t_2 = 3s## is correct. The calculation of ##x_{t_2}## has gone wrong somewhere. You added an extra ##12s## for some reason(?).
I too feel I have gone wrong in that part.
 
  • #47
brochesspro said:
I added the 12 seconds by mistake. I should have added 1 second for the phase where the speed is constant.
The way you did it, ##t_2## is the final time. You don't need to add anything.

brochesspro said:
I too feel I have gone wrong in that part.
I don't see the error immediately - but I used ##T## to keep things simple.
 
  • #48
Oh, I see, so I did a mistake in something basic.
 
  • #49
I think I neglected the constant ##C## while integrating for the first time for finding ##x_{t_2}##.
 
  • #50
brochesspro said:
Oh, I see, so I did a mistake in something basic.
You have ##a(t) = -6(t - 1)## (let's do the maths without units). So: $$v(t) = -3t^2 + 6t + k$$ where ##k## is the constant of integration. We know that ##v(1) = 12## (note that we do not have ##v(0) = 12##). So:
$$k = 12 + 3 - 6 = 9$$ and $$v(t) = -3t^2 + 6t + 9$$ That gives ##v(3) = 0##. Integrating again:
$$x(t) = -t^3 +3t^2 +9t + l$$
I think that's where you went wrong, by losing the ##9t## term.
 
  • #51
Never mind, I saw your post.
 
  • #52
brochesspro said:
Should I take ##C = 12 m## as it is the initial velocity of the body?
The constant of integration in the equation for ##x(t)## doesn't matter, as you are calculating the distance traveled between ##t = 1## and ##t =3##.
 
  • #53
After integration, I got ##x_{t_2}-x_{t_1}=16## after solving and after substituting I got ##x_{t_2}=28m## and thus the speed of bicycle is ##9.3 m/s## as per the question.
 
  • #54
brochesspro said:
After integration, I got ##x_{t_2}-x_{t_1}=16## after solving and after substituting I got ##x_{t_2}=28m## and thus the speed of bicycle is ##9.3 m/s## as per the question.
The bicycle is another ##17m## ahead to begin with. It must be Mark Cavendish after all!
 
  • #55
Oh yeah, so I get the average velocity as ##15 m/s##.
 
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  • #56
Thanks a lot.
So, how do I close this thread?
 
  • #57
brochesspro said:
Thanks a lot.
So, how do I close this thread?
It doesn't need to get closed. It can stay as it is.
 
  • #58
Oh, I see. Thanks again.
 
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