What is this mystery particle - LHC?

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The discussion revolves around a particle physics problem related to a reaction involving proton-antiproton collisions, specifically at the LHC. Participants are tasked with drawing Feynman diagrams, deriving expressions for mass and production rates of particles, and analyzing branching ratios and decay modes.

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  • Participants explore various aspects of the problem, including the mass of the particle, branching ratios, and decay modes. There is uncertainty about the initial problem setup, particularly regarding the presence of antiprotons in the LHC context. Questions arise about the correctness of ratios calculated for particle production and the implications of the particle's spin on event numbers.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning assumptions about the problem statement and exploring the implications of their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the branching ratios and decay modes, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations or calculations presented.

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Participants note potential discrepancies in the problem statement, suggesting it may not align with practical high-energy physics experiments. There is also a discussion about the energy levels required to produce various quark pairs, indicating a need for clarity on the conditions of the problem.

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Homework Statement



(a) Draw the feynman diagram for ##p \bar p \rightarrow## reaction.
(b) Find an expression for mass of the particle.
(c) Find an expression for number of ##\mu^{+} \mu^{-}## produced.
(d) Find an expression of ##n_{jj}## in terms of ##m_{inv}## and its spin.
(e) Deduce the crosssection and lifetime.
(f) What is its baryon number?[/B]
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Part(a)
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Part(b)

In rest frame, ##m_X^2 = (P + \bar P)^2 = P^2 + \bar P^2 + 2P_u \cdot \bar P_{\bar u}##
We assume kinetic energy is much more than rest mass energy, so
m_X^2 \approx 2 x_1 x_2 P_p \cdot \bar P_{\bar p}
m_X^2 = x_1 x_2 E_{cm}^2 = x_1 x_2 s

I have no idea how to start part (c). I know this particle couples equally to all fermions?
 
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The LHC is a proton-proton collider. No antiprotons.

The muons/jet branching ratio is similar to how you calculated branching fractions for the J/Psi a while ago.

Does the problem statement come from a theorist? At least certainly someone not familiar with high-energy experiments. Or someone ignoring how they work on purpose.
 
mfb said:
The LHC is a proton-proton collider. No antiprotons.

The muons/jet branching ratio is similar to how you calculated branching fractions for the J/Psi a while ago.

Does the problem statement come from a theorist? At least certainly someone not familiar with high-energy experiments. Or someone ignoring how they work on purpose.
So for part (c) it is essentially ##\frac{\Gamma_{\mu^{+}\mu^{-}}}{\Gamma_{jj}} = \frac{1}{(3 \times 3) + 3 + 3} = \frac{1}{15}##? There are ##3 \times 3## states for hadrons, ##3## states for lepton-antilepton and ##3## for neutrino-antineutrino. Is the particle the higgs boson?
 
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Your new particle is heavier than a J/Psi.
unscientific said:
Is the particle the higgs boson?
It is not a Higgs-like boson, otherwise the coupling would depend on the masses of the fermions.
 
mfb said:
Your new particle is heavier than a J/Psi.
It is not a Higgs-like boson, otherwise the coupling would depend on the masses of the fermions.
Is my ratio ##\frac{1}{15}## right?
 
You are missing some quark decay modes there.
 
mfb said:
You are missing some quark decay modes there.
Are all 6 quarks possible? If so then the ratio becomes ##\frac{1}{3 \times 6 + 3 +3} = \frac{1}{24}##.
 
unscientific said:
Are all 6 quarks possible?
Are 2000 GeV sufficient to produce all types of quark pairs?

Right.
 
mfb said:
Are 2000 GeV sufficient to produce all types of quark pairs?

Right.
That makes sense.

I don't understand the part where they want us to "compare the shape of normalization for ##\mu^+\mu^-## to the graph above". I found the ratio to be ##\frac{1}{24}## which implies about ##7## out of ## 170 ## events.
 
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Right.
And I don't see a reason to expect a different shape as the problem statement is ignoring all experimental issues anyway.
 
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mfb said:
Right.
And I don't see a reason to expect a different shape as the problem statement is ignoring all experimental issues anyway.
Ok, then for part (d): How is the number of events related to its spin? I thought the number of events is simply related to the cross section ##\sigma##?
 
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Hmm... looks like Breit-Wigner can depend on spin somehow, but I don't know details.
 
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Would appreciate it anyone else could contribute
 

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