What is your method of knowing when to use sine and cosine in force problems?

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This discussion focuses on methods for determining when to use sine and cosine in force problems, emphasizing the importance of visualizing right-angled triangles. Participants recommend using the mnemonic SOH CAH TOA to remember the definitions of sine (opposite/hypotenuse) and cosine (adjacent/hypotenuse). Two cases are outlined: when the angle is measured from the horizontal and when it is measured from the vertical, each affecting the assignment of sine and cosine to the respective force components. Understanding these principles allows for accurate decomposition of force vectors in physics problems.

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I am having the hardest time attaching my brain to some sort of method to know when to use sine and cosine on force problems. What is an easy way of remembering which function to use to find the force in the direction of x and force in the direction of y?
 
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AnthroMecha said:
I am having the hardest time attaching my brain to some sort of method to know when to use sine and cosine on force problems. What is an easy way of remembering which function to use to find the force in the direction of x and force in the direction of y?
First of all, draw a picture of the right-angled triangle, so that you don't have to just visualize it in your head.

Second of all, use the mnemonic SOH CAH TOA to remember the definitions of the trigonometric ratios.

Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse.

Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse.

Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent.

Third of all, realize that in decomposing force vectors, there are usually only ever TWO possible cases.

Case 1: The angle that you've been given is measured from the horizontal

Code:
    |\
    | \
    |  \
    |   \
    |    \  
Fy |     \  F
    |      \ 
    |       \
    |        \
    |         \
    |         <------ θ
    |_______\
       Fx

In this situation, Fy is the side of the triangle that is opposite from the angle, and Fx is the side of the triangle that is adjacent to the angle. (The total magnitude, F, of the force, is always the hypotenuse). Therefore, it follows that:

sinθ = Fy/F (opposite side / hypotenuse)

cosθ = Fx/F (adjacent side / hypotenuse)

Fy = Fsinθ
Fx = Fcosθ​
Case 2: The angle that you've been given is measured from the vertical

Code:
    |\
    | \
    |  <------ θ
    |   \
    |    \  
Fy |     \  F
    |      \ 
    |       \
    |        \
    |         \
    |          \
    |_______\
       Fx

In this situation, Fy is the side of the triangle that is adjacent to the angle, and Fx is the side of the triangle that is opposite from the angle. (The total magnitude, F, of the force, is always the hypotenuse). Therefore, it follows that:

sinθ = Fx/F (opposite side / hypotenuse)

cosθ = Fy/F (adjacent side / hypotenuse)

Fy = Fcosθ
Fx = Fsinθ​

So, you can see that, if the angle is measured from the horizontal, then the cosine is associated with the horizontal component, and the sine is associated with the vertical component.

if the angle is measured from the vertical, then the cosine is associated with the vertical component, and the sine is associated with the horizontal component.
 
Hi AnthroMecha! :wink:
AnthroMecha said:
What is an easy way of remembering which function to use to find the force in the direction of x and force in the direction of y?

I keep telling people …

it's always cos! :smile:

It's always cos of the angle between the force and the direction …

whenever it looks like sine, that's because you're using the "wrong" angle …

maybe θ is marked on the diagram, but if the angle you really want is 90°-θ, then you use cos(90°-θ), which of course is sinθ ! :wink:

(however, a good check o:), when you're using slopes, is to imagine :rolleyes: "what would happen if the slope was 0°?" … would the component vanish (sin0°) or be a maximum (cos0°) ?)​
 
This forum always delivers. Thanks guys these are very useful tools.
 
SohCahToa !
 

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