What magnitude of force must the worker apply?

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The problem involves a factory worker pushing a 30.0-kg crate along a level floor at constant speed, with a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.25. The main question is about determining the magnitude of the force the worker must apply.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the applied force and the frictional force, with one participant calculating the frictional force based on the given parameters. There is confusion regarding the use of trigonometric ratios and the angle of the applied force.

Discussion Status

Some participants are questioning the assumptions made about the angle of the applied force and its impact on the normal force. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider force components and to draw a diagram to visualize the forces acting on the crate.

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There is a mention of differing problem numbers and potential confusion regarding the specific question being addressed, which may affect the interpretation of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A factory worker pushes a 30.0-kg crate a distance of 4.5. along a level floor at constant speed by pushing horizontally on it. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the crate and the floor is 0.25. (a) What magnitude of force must the worker apply?


Homework Equations



summation of F x forces = 0

frictional force = coefficient of fric * normal force

The Attempt at a Solution



Hello, my solution is this

since the frictional force and the force of the worker in the x direction are equal,

fric force = 0.25 * 9.8 * 30 kg

fric force = 73.5 NEWTONS

so to find the magnitude of the force that the worker apply, we simply use trigonometric ratios.

cos (30) = 73.5 / r

r = 84.87 Newtons

my answer is 84.87, but the answer in the book is 99.2 Newtons. can you tell me where did i go wrong? tnx
 
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why cos(30) ? you never mentioned in your formulation of the problem that there are any angles other than 90 degree.
 
Hello, I am referreing to question 6.4a, (the one in black pen)

http://i55.tinypic.com/2e2md0z.jpg

tnx. I've tried my best but where did i go wrong? what's ur answer?
 
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blackandyello said:

Homework Statement


A factory worker pushes a 30.0-kg crate a distance of 4.5. along a level floor at constant speed by pushing horizontally on it. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the crate and the floor is 0.25. (a) What magnitude of force must the worker apply?


Homework Equations



summation of F x forces = 0

frictional force = coefficient of fric * normal force

The Attempt at a Solution



Hello, my solution is this

since the frictional force and the force of the worker in the x direction are equal,

fric force = 0.25 * 9.8 * 30 kg

fric force = 73.5 NEWTONS

so to find the magnitude of the force that the worker apply, we simply use trigonometric ratios.

cos (30) = 73.5 / r

r = 84.87 Newtons

my answer is 84.87, but the answer in the book is 99.2 Newtons. can you tell me where did i go wrong? tnx
This is confusing because you posted Question 6.3(a), but show your work for 6.4 which is different because of the 30 degree downward angle of the worker's force.

The normal force is not simply the weight of the crate here. To work through a problem like this, you need to:

1. Draw a diagram showing all forces on the crate. Remember that the force from the worker is at an angle, not along the horizontal as it was in problem 6.3.

2. Set up two equations, using ƩFx=0 and ƩFy=0. Remember to separate the worker's force into components using sin and cos.

See if you can at least get that far, and if you're still stuck then post your work here for us to look at.
 
Indeed, when the worker is pushing downwards, he is increasing the weight of the crate and so the friction force as well.
 

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