# Homework Help: What magnitude of force must the worker apply?

1. Oct 10, 2011

### blackandyello

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
A factory worker pushes a 30.0-kg crate a distance of 4.5. along a level floor at constant speed by pushing horizontally on it. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the crate and the floor is 0.25. (a) What magnitude of force must the worker apply?

2. Relevant equations

summation of F x forces = 0

frictional force = coefficient of fric * normal force

3. The attempt at a solution

Hello, my solution is this

since the frictional force and the force of the worker in the x direction are equal,

fric force = 0.25 * 9.8 * 30 kg

fric force = 73.5 NEWTONS

so to find the magnitude of the force that the worker apply, we simply use trigonometric ratios.

cos (30) = 73.5 / r

r = 84.87 newtons

my answer is 84.87, but the answer in the book is 99.2 newtons. can you tell me where did i go wrong? tnx

2. Oct 10, 2011

### georgir

why cos(30) ? you never mentioned in your formulation of the problem that there are any angles other than 90 degree.

3. Oct 12, 2011

### blackandyello

Hello, im referreing to question 6.4a, (the one in black pen)

http://i55.tinypic.com/2e2md0z.jpg

tnx. ive tried my best but where did i go wrong? whats ur answer?

Last edited by a moderator: Oct 12, 2011
4. Oct 12, 2011

### Redbelly98

Staff Emeritus
This is confusing because you posted Question 6.3(a), but show your work for 6.4 which is different because of the 30 degree downward angle of the worker's force.

The normal force is not simply the weight of the crate here. To work through a problem like this, you need to:

1. Draw a diagram showing all forces on the crate. Remember that the force from the worker is at an angle, not along the horizontal as it was in problem 6.3.

2. Set up two equations, using ƩFx=0 and ƩFy=0. Remember to separate the worker's force into components using sin and cos.

See if you can at least get that far, and if you're still stuck then post your work here for us to look at.

5. Oct 12, 2011

### georgir

Indeed, when the worker is pushing downwards, he is increasing the weight of the crate and so the friction force as well.