What would hapen to coefficent of spring if we cut it

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The discussion revolves around the effects on the spring constant when a spring is cut into two equal parts. Participants are exploring the relationship between the spring's physical properties and its behavior under deformation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand why cutting a spring results in a doubling of the spring constant. Questions are raised about the logic behind this change and the underlying physical principles.

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Some participants have provided mathematical reasoning to support the idea that the spring constant doubles when the spring is halved. Others are seeking a more physical or microscopic explanation of the spring constant, indicating a productive exploration of both mathematical and conceptual aspects.

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There is a request for clarification on the nature of the spring constant beyond mathematical definitions, suggesting a desire for deeper understanding. Participants are also navigating language barriers in their explanations.

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what would hapen to coefficient of spring if we cut it into 2 equal parts?
 
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And what will you do with the parts, exactly?
Each of the part will have a double coefficient.
To stretch it to the same length as before, you will need to deform it twice as much.
(deformation= (final length)/(initial length))
 
lalbatros said:
Each of the part will have a double coefficient.
I want to know why it became double
 
sorry for my bad English
i mean why it's coefficient become twice i want logic answer
i want to know why K1=2K2 (if k1 is the first spring and k2 is belong to other spring-the second one-)
 
You can calculate the spring constant by considering k = F/x, where x is the amount the spring is stretched.

Imagine that you apply a force F to the full spring and it stretches an amount x. Now realize that the full spring is just two half-springs in series. How much does each half-spring stretch? What force does each half-spring exert? (Careful with that last question.)
 
the stretch of each one x/2
and the forces are equal (F1=F2)
 
In can be put mathematically like this. When you cut a spring in two equal halves then the value of spring cinstant doubles.
 
reza said:
the stretch of each one x/2
and the forces are equal (F1=F2)
Exactly. Now calculate the new spring constant:
k' = Force/stretch = F/(x/2) = 2 F/x = 2k

Make sense?
 
I understand and thank you so much
but i want to know it's microscopic answer i mean what is the nature of spring constant (a physical answer not a mathematical answer)
can you give me brif answer or guid me a source to found it out
thank you wvery much for your good answer again.
 

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