How Do You Derive This Kinetic Energy Equation for High-Speed Electrons?

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The discussion centers on deriving the kinetic energy equation for high-speed electrons, specifically K = (cp)²/(2m₀c²) = h²/(2m₀λ²). The user expresses confusion about how to obtain this equation using known relationships, particularly E = hf = K + mc². A key point raised is the necessity to consider relativistic effects when dealing with high-speed electrons. The total energy equation E_total = √(p²c² + m₀²c⁴) is mentioned, emphasizing the relationship between kinetic energy and rest energy. The conversation highlights the challenge of integrating these concepts to arrive at the desired kinetic energy expression.
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I'm confused about how can I obtain this equation:

K=\frac{(cp)^{2}}{2m_{0}c^{2}}=\frac{h^{2}}{2m_{0}\lambda^{2}}

being K the Kinetic energy, p the momentum and lambda the wavelenght.

It's related with the energy of an electrons beam, and I don't know how to obtain it from the equations that I know so far (basically, E = hf = K + mc^2, with f the frequency)

It's a really unhappy business :S

Thank you!

(Edit: Sorry about not have used the template, my question this time just not fit in it)
 
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atomqwerty said:
I'm confused about how can I obtain this equation:

K=\frac{(cp)^{2}}{2m_{0}c^{2}}=\frac{h^{2}}{2m_{0}\lambda^{2}}

being K the Kinetic energy, p the momentum and lambda the wavelenght.

It's related with the energy of an electrons beam, and I don't know how to obtain it from the equations that I know so far (basically, E = hf = K + mc^2, with f the frequency)

It's a really unhappy business :S

Thank you!

(Edit: Sorry about not have used the template, my question this time just not fit in it)
For very high speed electrons, you have to take into account relativistic effects.

E_{total} = \sqrt{p^2 c^2 + m_0^2 c^4} = m_0c^2 + E_k = h\nu = \frac{hc}{\lambda}

Try and work that out.

AM
 
Andrew Mason said:
For very high speed electrons, you have to take into account relativistic effects.

E_{total} = \sqrt{p^2 c^2 + m_0^2 c^4} = m_0c^2 + E_k = h\nu = \frac{hc}{\lambda}

Try and work that out.

AM

Thanks

By substituting the my expression of K into your formula, I obtain that

= p^2 c^2 = 2m_0c^2 with have no too much sense.

However, the formula you wrote it's the same that mine (Kinetic energy plus rest energy), but including the Lorentz factor in the Kinetic energy, isn't it?
 
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