Why are Some Constants Dimensionless?

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Constants like Avogadro's Number, Planck's Constant, and the Gravitational Constant have dimensions due to their roles in equations, while pure numbers like 1, 2, and 3 are dimensionless. The Gravitational Constant, G, has units of 1/(kg sec^2) to balance the units in the equation F = -GmM/r^2. Avogadro's Number is dimensionless as it represents the number of molecules per mole, while Planck's Constant has units of kg m^2/sec to maintain energy unit consistency in the equation E = hν. The discussion also highlights that constants can be dimensionless in certain contexts, such as the speed of light in relativity, which is treated as dimensionless. Understanding units as constants helps clarify their compatibility in mathematical expressions.
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Why are pure numbers like 1 , 2 , 3 ... dimensionless and Avogadro's Number, Plank's Constant, Gravitational Constant dimensional ?
 
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Because the latter have dimensions! The Gravitational constant, G, appears in F= -GmM/r^2. In the metric system (mks), r has units of meters, both m and M have units of kg so that "mM/r^2" have units of kg^2/m^2. F, a force, has units of "kg m^2/sec^2". In order to make the units on both sides of the equation the same, G must have units of 1/(kg sec^2).

Avogadro's number is the number of molecules per mole. The number of molecules does not depend on any units so Avogadro's number has units of mol^{-1}.

Plank's constant is the "h" in h\nu where E is energy, and so has units of kg m^2/sec^2 while \nu, a frequency, is "number of cycles per second". "Number of cycles", like "number of molecules" is just a number without units. Since we need to have left "kg m^2/sec^2" we need . That means that h must have units of kg m^2 in the numerator and one "sec" in the denominator: kg m^2/sec.
 
Why is 1/2 in 1/2 mv^2 dimensionless ?
 
Because mv^2 has the unit same as that of Energy.
 
aati2sh said:
Because mv^2 has the unit same as that of Energy.

Please elaborate it mathematically.
 
Let this constant (which turns out to be 1/2) be C. Let k and k' be different dimensionless numbers. It's quite easy to see that we can set up

C\cdot k\cdot \left(1\ \mathrm{J}\right)=k'\cdot\left(1\ \mathrm{J}\right)

And so

C=\dfrac{k'}{k}

And so C's dimensionless.

I wanted to point out that c, the speed of light, is dimensionless, equal to 1, in Special (and General, I'd imagine) Relativity. Basically, 299792458\ \mathrm{m}=1\ \mathrm{s}.

I've always found it useful to think of units as constants that are, in some cases, incompatible with one another, so the simplest form is just their product.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks

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