Why do deshielded protons require more energy in NMR spectroscopy?

  • Thread starter Thread starter davgonz90
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Nmr Spectroscopy
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between deshielded protons and their energy requirements in NMR spectroscopy, exploring the concepts of chemical shielding, magnetic fields, and frequency in the context of nuclear magnetic resonance.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that as protons become more deshielded, they require more energy to change their spin, leading to a higher frequency in the NMR spectrum.
  • One participant suggests that deshielded protons experience a stronger magnetic field, which increases the energetic difference between spin states, thus raising the frequency.
  • Another participant explains that chemical shielding reduces the effective magnetic field at the nucleus, and that a more deshielded nucleus results in greater splitting between spin orientations, correlating with higher transition frequencies.
  • A question is raised regarding whether the frequency refers to the energy absorbed by the proton or the energy of the radiowave directed at the sample.
  • Clarification is provided that the frequency pertains to both the energy absorbed by the proton and the energy of the photons in the radiowave.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between deshielding, magnetic fields, and energy requirements, but the discussion includes clarifications and questions that indicate some uncertainty about the specifics of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of shielding and energy transitions may not be fully articulated, and the discussion does not resolve all nuances regarding the relationship between frequency and energy in NMR.

davgonz90
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
As you move to the left in the NMR spectrum, the protons become more deshielded. So why is it that they require MORE energy to change their spin? If they don't require more energy, then why is the left side labeled as high frequency? Thanks.
 
Chemistry news on Phys.org
If the protons become deshielded, they see a stronger magnetic field. Hence the energetic difference ##\Delta E\sim \mu B## rises and, by ##\Delta E=h\nu##, also frequency.
 
The effect of the chemical shielding is to reduce the effective magnetic field at the nucleus. A more deshielded nucleus will have a greater splitting between the different spin orientations, since the splitting is directly proportional to the magnetic field. This leads to a greater transition frequency.

Edit: beaten by DrDu.
 
So the frequency refers to amount of energy being absorbed/emitted by the proton? Or the amount of energy in the radiowave being shot at the sample?
 
It is the amount of energy absorbed by the proton and the energy of the photons of the radiowave.
 
Gotcha. You can mark this thread as solved as I understand now. Thanks for your help! :)
 

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
9K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
10K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
12K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K