Why Do SO2 and XeO4 Form Different Types of Bonds?

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The discussion centers on the bonding characteristics of sulfur dioxide (SO2) and xenon tetroxide (XeO4). It questions why sulfur does not form two double bonds with oxygen to extend its octet, and why xenon does not form four dative covalent bonds to maintain its octet. The conversation highlights that neither sulfur nor xenon extends their octet in these compounds, suggesting that the distinction between double bonds and dative bonds may be superficial. A participant raises a point about counting electrons around xenon, indicating a complexity in bonding that may not align with traditional octet rules. The discussion also touches on the indistinguishability of electrons and the nature of covalent bonding, suggesting that the differences between dative and pure covalent bonds might be less significant than typically thought. Resources such as a specific textbook and a Wikipedia article on hypervalent molecules are recommended for further understanding.
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The S molecule of SO2 forms a double bond with one O and dative covalent bond with another O
Meanwhile,XeO4 is a molecule which Xe forms a double bond with each O
I have a question here
Why doesn't that S forms 2 double bonds with O to extend its octet structure?
Similarly,why doesn't that Xe form 4 dative covalent bond with O to maintain its octet structure?
 
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Neither sulfur nor xenon extend their octet in these compounds and a distinction between double bonded and dative bonded oxygens is purely fictive.
 
DrDu said:
Neither sulfur nor xenon extend their octet in these compounds and a distinction between double bonded and dative bonded oxygens is purely fictive.

why do u say that "Neither sulfur nor xenon extend their octet in these compounds"
if i draw the electron diagram of Xe,i count there should be 16 outermost electrons around Xe?
 
but can i explain like this:
since electrons are indistinguishable,and they all move randomly around the atoms
so it is indistinguishable whether it is dative or pure covalent?
 
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