Why Do We Use Ramp Length Instead of Height in Rolling Sphere Calculations?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a sphere rolling down a ramp, with specific parameters such as radius, mass, and incline angle. The original poster questions the use of ramp length versus height in calculating the final linear velocity of the sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand why the ramp length is necessary for the kinematic equation, having initially used height. Some participants suggest that the acceleration derived from gravitational force acts along the ramp, not vertically.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the rationale behind using ramp length in calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the direction of forces affecting acceleration, but there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications of this choice.

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The original poster has indicated a desire for clarification rather than a solution, and there is an acknowledgment of previous interactions with a participant, suggesting ongoing engagement in the forum.

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Homework Statement


A sphere of radius .06 m and mass .5 kg rolls down a ramp that is angled 30 degrees down the incline. It starts rolling from a height of 7 feet and does not slip

What is its final linear velocity?
Now, I used mgh=translational +rotational KE and found that the final velocity was 9.9, but I didn't want to do that.

I wanted to use the formula acm=(g*sinθ)/(1+β) where β is the coefficient in front of mr^2 (for a sphere, .4 or 2/5).
So, Vf^2=vo^2+2*a*Δx.

My question is, which Δx do I use? I initially used the height and my answer was wrong...I was supposed to use the ramp, which by trig is 14 meters.

Homework Equations


acm=(g*sin(θ))/(1+β)
KE and PE equations.
V^2=Vo^2+2*a*Δx[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



I already know the answer. I just want to know why the length of the ramp is used for v^2=vo^2+2adelta x equation.

Thanks, this should only take a moment. Appreciate any input guys! :) :)[/B]
 
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You should use the length of the ramp because the force you used to obtain the acceleration is in the downramp direction (g*sinθ), not vertical.
 
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Aha, that is what I suspected. By the way Haruspex, you have commented on all of the posts that I have made on physics forums so far. Appreciate the help!​
 
jcruise322 said:
Aha, that is what I suspected. By the way Haruspex, you have commented on all of the posts that I have made on physics forums so far. Appreciate the help!​
Maybe our timezones match.
 

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