Why is the expectation value of an observable what it is (the formula)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the expectation value of an observable in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the formula for position. Participants are exploring the relationship between linear transformations, eigenvectors, and the probabilistic interpretation of quantum states.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to connect linear algebra concepts with probability in quantum mechanics. Questions arise regarding why the expectation value can be interpreted as an average and how the wave function serves as a weighting factor in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the probabilistic meaning of quantum states and the role of self-adjoint operators. There is acknowledgment of the importance of these concepts, but the original poster still expresses confusion about the connections being made.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be a struggle with integrating linear algebra and probability within the framework of quantum mechanics, indicating a potential gap in foundational understanding. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties but highlights them as areas of exploration.

gothloli
Messages
37
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


I really do not understand why the expectation value of an observable such as position is
<x> = \int\Psi*(x)\Psi

Homework Equations


If Q is an operator then
<Q> = = \int\Psi*(Q)\Psi
cn = <f,\Psi&gt;


The Attempt at a Solution


What I understand this is saying is that since x is a linear transformation and \Psi is an eigenvector, by x\Psi would be a vector in position space. Then taking the expectation value is like taking the inner product of \Psi, and a position eigenfunction. But why would that give an average value? What I vaguely understand is that \int\Psi^{2}, is the probability density and multiplying operator by probability would give the average value. But I'm still confused as connecting linear algebra with probability and quantum, I'm having a hard time with that.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
It is like a weighted average, where the weight appears via the wave function in the integral.
It just works this way. Why? Ask nature.
 
It's important to understand this. It's the key of the probabilistic meaning of the quantum mechanical state. An observable is represented by a self-adjoint operator in Hilbert space, and there's a complete set of (generalized) eigenfunctions u_j(x) of this operator. The (generatlized) eigen values (or better "spectral values") of the operator are the possible values the observable can take, and the probability to measure the jth eigenvalue, given the system is prepared in a state described by the normalized wave function \psi, is given by
P_j=\left |\int \mathrm{d}^3 x u_j^*(x) \psi(x) \right|^2.
The expectation value is then given by
\langle O \rangle = \sum_j o_j P_j.
Using the completeness of the (generalized) wave functions you can then easily show that you can write this expectation value in the way given in your question.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: 1 person
Ok, I understand, that makes sense.
 

Similar threads

Replies
14
Views
3K
  • · Replies 30 ·
2
Replies
30
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
8K