Why NaCl does not conduct electricity in solid state?

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The discussion revolves around the electrical conductivity of NaCl in its solid state, specifically addressing why it does not conduct electricity. Participants explore the roles of ions and electrons in conductivity within the context of solid ionic compounds.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants examine the original poster's assertion regarding the absence of free-moving ions and electrons, questioning the clarity of the wording used. There is a focus on the interpretation of terms and the implications for understanding conductivity.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights on the phrasing of the original statement and its potential misinterpretation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for clarity in communication, particularly in academic contexts.

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There is mention of a grading issue related to the original poster's response on a test, highlighting the importance of precise language in scientific explanations. Participants are also considering the implications of how the question was framed in relation to the understanding of electrical conductivity.

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It has no free moving ions or electrons

Then, my teacher saw the electrons and gave 0 marks to the question(It was on the test paper)

He said that if he didn't see electrons there, he would have given a mark.
Why? I don't understand.

If it does not have free moving ions but have free moving electrons, then it will conduct. My answer should not be wrong!
 
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I don't see problem with electrons being mentioned, quite the opposite - it looks quite OK to me.

That is, your wording can be slightly confusing. If what you mean is that NaCl crystal has no free moving ions nor free moving electrons, I would accept it. Delocalized, freely moving electrons in the conduction band are what makes solids conductive.

I will move the question to physics forum, as it is better suited there.
 
Borek said:
If what you mean is that NaCl crystal has no free moving ions nor free moving electrons, I would accept it.
Isn't that the same thing?
Can a native English speaker help me here?What do you think?
 
adjacent said:
Isn't that the same thing?
Can a native English speaker help me here?What do you think?

The way you wrote it it might be possible to interpret as you stating that NaCl doesn't have electrons which isn't true. I think your meaning is clear by context though.
 
dauto said:
The way you wrote it it might be possible to interpret as you stating that NaCl doesn't have electrons which isn't true. I think your meaning is clear by context though.

Yeah, I think he read the sentence separately:
[It has no free moving ions] [or electrons]

I think it's better to write:
[It has no free moving ions] nor [free moving electrons]. This makes more sense :smile:
 
When formally dissected, your answer states (among other things) "it has no electrons". Your adjective "free moving" is associated with ions. If you intend the adjective to also be associated with electrons then the adjective must be repeated, as Borek illustrated.

http://physicsforums.bernhardtmediall.netdna-cdn.com/images/icons/icon2.gif Remember, an examination doesn't test a student's understanding, it tests a student's skill at convincing the examiner of his understanding.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
http://physicsforums.bernhardtmediall.netdna-cdn.com/images/icons/icon2.gif Remember, an examination doesn't test a student's understanding, it tests a student's skill at convincing the examiner of his understanding.
I see, I will keep this in mind.
 
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