Why Use z Instead of r for Dipole Moment Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the dipole moment of a spherical shell with a specific charge distribution using Griffith's electrodynamics. The user initially used the definition of dipole moment, resulting in an integral that evaluated to zero. They discovered that using the z-component (Rcosθ) instead of the radial vector (r) is necessary due to the symmetry of the charge distribution, which simplifies the calculation. The user realized their mistake was in treating the unit vector as constant rather than a function of angular coordinates. They sought clarification on whether there is a simpler method for vector integration in spherical coordinates, expressing confusion over the complexity of the process.
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I'm trying to do problem 3.28 in griffith's electrodynamics. The problem statement is, to find the dipole moment of a spherical shell with charge distribution σ = kcosθ

The way I tried to do it was to use the definition of dipole moment, which griffith defines as

P= ∫r σ dζ

where r = position of charge w.r.t origin ( in this case R ) and dζ is volume element.

The above integral gives 0 ( unless i did something stupid)

I looked up the solution manual and the way it does it is to use Rcosθ ie z instead of r. Can some1 explain why this is?
 
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You should consider r in the integral as a vector. and since the charge distribution has symmetry with respect to x and y axes, we only consider z component of r which is Rcosθ. You can check x and y and make sure that they are zero.
 
I see now. My problem was that even though I looked at it as a vector, I didn't realize that the unit vector \hat{r} itself was a function of θ and \phi and I took it out of the integral. When i rewrite it in cartesian co-ordinates and do the integral for each component ( cartesian unit vectors are constant so I can take it out of the integral ) it comes out fine. But when I look at this, vector integration with spherical co-ordinates seems very complicated, is there an easier way than rewriting in cartesian co-ords and integrating?
 
i got confused with this problem too, thank you for taking it out. :smile:
 
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