Why Use z Instead of r for Dipole Moment Calculation?

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The discussion centers on calculating the dipole moment of a spherical shell with a charge distribution defined as σ = kcosθ. The integral for the dipole moment, P = ∫r σ dζ, yields zero when using the position vector r directly. The solution manual suggests using the z-component, Rcosθ, instead of r due to the symmetry of the charge distribution, which simplifies the calculation. The confusion arises from treating the unit vector \hat{r} as constant, while it is actually dependent on the angles θ and φ in spherical coordinates.

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I'm trying to do problem 3.28 in griffith's electrodynamics. The problem statement is, to find the dipole moment of a spherical shell with charge distribution σ = kcosθ

The way I tried to do it was to use the definition of dipole moment, which griffith defines as

P= ∫r σ dζ

where r = position of charge w.r.t origin ( in this case R ) and dζ is volume element.

The above integral gives 0 ( unless i did something stupid)

I looked up the solution manual and the way it does it is to use Rcosθ ie z instead of r. Can some1 explain why this is?
 
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You should consider r in the integral as a vector. and since the charge distribution has symmetry with respect to x and y axes, we only consider z component of r which is Rcosθ. You can check x and y and make sure that they are zero.
 
I see now. My problem was that even though I looked at it as a vector, I didn't realize that the unit vector \hat{r} itself was a function of θ and \phi and I took it out of the integral. When i rewrite it in cartesian co-ordinates and do the integral for each component ( cartesian unit vectors are constant so I can take it out of the integral ) it comes out fine. But when I look at this, vector integration with spherical co-ordinates seems very complicated, is there an easier way than rewriting in cartesian co-ords and integrating?
 
i got confused with this problem too, thank you for taking it out. :smile:
 
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