With which forces and why spring acts on two bodies

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The discussion centers on the forces exerted by a spring acting on two bodies of different masses. It is clarified that the spring exerts an equal force, represented as kx, on both bodies regardless of their mass. This phenomenon is explained through Newton's Third Law, which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The confusion arises from misunderstanding that tension or compression in a spring is a pair of equal and opposite forces rather than a single force. Overall, the mechanics of spring force and its implications for different masses are emphasized.
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Homework Statement



Suppose we have spring which is between two bodies of different mass, with which force spring will act on every of them?

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Spring acts on a body with force kx

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Suppose body A has mass 2kg and body B has mass 1kg, i think spring will act on body A with force kx and on body B with the same force, but i don't understand why? Why not kx/2?
 
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harmyder said:
Suppose body A has mass 2kg and body B has mass 1kg, i think spring will act on body A with force ##kx## and on body B with the same force, but i don't understand why? Why not ##kx/2##?

I think Newton's Third Law explains this. The spring exerts a force ##kx## on ##B## and in turn, ##B## exerts a force ##-kx## on the spring. Then the spring transfers that force ##-kx## to ##A##, and in turn, ##A## pushes back on the spring with the force ##kx## which gets transferred to ##B## and so on and so forth. Can someone correct me on this or explain this more clearly so that he can understand?
 
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There is not enough information given in the problem statement for any definite answer to be arrived at .
 
Nidum said:
There is not enough information given in the problem statement for any definite answer to be arrived at .
Sorry, what additional information should i provide?
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
I think Newton's Third Law explains this. The spring exerts a force ##kx## on ##B## and in turn, ##B## exerts a force ##-kx## on the spring. Then the spring transfers that force ##-kx## to ##A##, and in turn, ##A## pushes back on the spring with the force ##kx## which gets transferred to ##B## and so on and so forth. Can someone correct me on this or explain this more clearly so that he can understand?
Looks right to me.
This confuses many students. The root of that, in my view, is that a tension (or compression) is not so much a force as a pair of equal and opposite forces.
 
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