Work and Spring Stiffness Constant

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a trampoline artist who jumps and lands on a trampoline, requiring calculations for his landing speed and the trampoline's depression. The artist's landing speed is calculated to be 9.2 m/s, but there is confusion regarding the calculation of how far the trampoline depresses. The spring stiffness constant is given as 6.2e4 N/m, and the participant struggles with the application of equations related to force and energy conservation. It is suggested that using energy conservation principles might simplify the problem, as the question hints at ignoring potential energy changes. Understanding Hooke's Law is emphasized as crucial for solving the problem correctly.
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Homework Statement



A 65 kg trampoline artist jumps vertically upward from the top of a platform with a speed of 5.0 m/s. (Ignore small changes in gravitational potential energy.)

a) How fast is he going as he lands on the trampoline, 3.0 m below?
ANS: 9.2m/s
NOTE: I understand how to get this, I just need help on part B.

(b) If the trampoline behaves like a spring with spring stiffness constant 6.2e4 N/m, how far does he depress it?
ANS:

Homework Equations



x = Fs/-k
k = 6.2e4 N/m

F = ma
m = 65 kg

a = {(v_2)^2 - (v_1)^s}/{2d}

The Attempt at a Solution



x = {((v_2)^2 - (v_1)^s)*65}/{2*d*6.2e4}

My value of d = x = the depression of the trampoline, so,

x = {((v_2)^2 - (v_1)^s)*65}/{2*(x)*6.2e4}.

v_1 = 9.2 m/s
v_2 = 0 m/s

2x = .0443
x = 0.22 , which is wrong :-(.
 
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Does a spring always produce the same force no matter what its displacement is?

(And why do you think the question asks you to ignore changes in potential energy? that may be a clue...)
 
heth said:
Does a spring always produce the same force no matter what its displacement is?(And why do you think the question asks you to ignore changes in potential energy? that may be a clue...)

Yes it does produce the same force no matter what displacement is. Where did I use potential energy? I still don't understand how my equation is wrong...
 
sugarntwiligh said:
Yes it does produce the same force no matter what displacement is.

Imagine you have a great big spring, and you're trying to extend it. Or a piece of rubber and you're trying to stretch it. Imagine it pulling back at you as you pull it, and that it's strong enough not to deform.

You're saying that the spring / rubber will always pull you with the same force, no matter how far you've extended it. Does that sound right?

(Have you heard of Hooke's Law? If not, then look it up in your textbook - it will help.)

Where did I use potential energy? I still don't understand how my equation is wrong...

The fact that the question mentions "small changes in potential energy" should make you wonder if you can use energy conservation to do the question. If you can use energy conservation, this is often easier than using forces.
 
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