Work done by a gas during an adiabatic process involving a state chang

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The discussion centers on calculating the work done by a gas during an adiabatic process involving a phase change. The key equations referenced include PV^γ = constant and U = Cv (ΔT). The user proposes to first determine the new pressure and volume after expansion, then calculate the work done during the phase change using the formula -PΔV, where P represents atmospheric pressure. However, there is uncertainty regarding the applicability of the adiabatic process due to the heat exchange involved in phase changes.

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Homework Statement


The problem involves a container holding a gas at high pressure. The container is opened to the environment, where the gas will cool down, producing a liquid or solid, and I want to find the work done by the gas throughout this process.

Homework Equations


PV^γ = constant
U = Cv (ΔT)

The Attempt at a Solution


The process that I would do is find the new values of the P, V after the expansion using PV^γ = constant, find out the new temperature, and use the change in internal energy associated with the temperature to find the work, as in an adiabatic process the heat flow is 0. However, with the phase change, I'm not really sure on how to best do this.

Currently, I'm thinking that the best way to do this would be to do the adiabatic expansion until the sublimation or boiling point, calculate the work as above, then calculate the work by determining the change in volume from the gaseous to the liquid or solid phase, then using -PΔV to determine the work due to phase change, with P being the atmospheric pressure.

Can anyone tell me if I'm in the right direction, or if there is something I'm missing?
 
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I don't think this is an adiabatic process.

First of all, if the gas is at high pressure and then opened to the environment wouldn't it immediately expand and mix with the atmosphere through convection?

Secondly, in a phase change their is an exchange of heat. The value of this amount of heat depends on the latent heat of condensation of the gas.
 
qazadex said:

Homework Statement


The problem involves a container holding a gas at high pressure. The container is opened to the environment, where the gas will cool down, producing a liquid or solid, and I want to find the work done by the gas throughout this process.
Perhaps you could give us the exact wording of the question.

Is this an ideal gas? If not, why would PV^γ = constant and U = Cv (ΔT) apply? If so, why would it turn to solid or liquid?

AM
 

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