Work Done by Gas: Ideal Diatomic Process

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The problem involves a 1.00 mol sample of an ideal diatomic gas undergoing a process where its pressure increases linearly with temperature, transitioning from 420 K and 1.00 atm to 720 K and 1.60 atm. The task is to determine the work done by the gas during this process, with relevant equations including PV = nRT and W = ∫(PdV).

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion regarding the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature, particularly questioning how volume can change if the amount of gas (n) is constant. They explore the implications of linear relationships between pressure and temperature and consider the role of heat transfer in the process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions about the gas behavior and the implications of the linear relationship between pressure and temperature. Some have suggested that heat transfer may be involved, while others are clarifying the nature of the relationship between pressure and temperature.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem states pressure varies linearly with temperature but does not imply direct proportionality, leading to discussions about potential nonzero y-intercepts in the relationship.

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Homework Statement


A 1.00 mol sample of an ideal diatomic gas at a pressure of 1.00 atm and temperature of 420 K undergoes a process in which its pressure increases linearly with temperature. The final temperature and pressure are 720 K and 1.60 atm. Determine the work done by this gas during this process.

Homework Equations


PV = nRT and W = int(PdV)

The Attempt at a Solution


So, i checked online for a solution and checked the official solutions manual, after i was stumped for awhile. My biggest issue is that both agree that volume changes. But if P = nR/V *T, and P varies linearly with T, then how is V not a constant? Or if it is changing, then how is n still a constant?
 
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Hlud said:

Homework Statement


A 1.00 mol sample of an ideal diatomic gas at a pressure of 1.00 atm and temperature of 420 K undergoes a process in which its pressure increases linearly with temperature. The final temperature and pressure are 720 K and 1.60 atm. Determine the work done by this gas during this process.

Homework Equations


PV = nRT and W = int(PdV)

The Attempt at a Solution


So, i checked online for a solution and checked the official solutions manual, after i was stumped for awhile. My biggest issue is that both agree that volume changes. But if P = nR/V *T, and P varies linearly with T, then how is V not a constant? Or if it is changing, then how is n still a constant?
It's a 1 mole sample. What does that tell you about n ?
 
If n is constant, then how is V not constant? The slope of the straight line (in this case slope = nR/V) should be constant. If n and R are to be constants, then i assume that V should be constant as well. However, neither solution i have checked show this.
 
Hlud said:
If n is constant, then how is V not constant? The slope of the straight line (in this case slope = nR/V) should be constant. If n and R are to be constants, then i assume that V should be constant as well. However, neither solution i have checked show this.
It must be that there is heat transfer involved as well.
 
I am missing something. If heat is added, can the temperature still vary linearly with pressure? Or is it no longer an ideal gas.
 
SammyS said:
It must be that there is heat transfer involved as well.
That may have been a bit misleading.

The statement says that P varies linearly with T. It does not say that they are proportional.
 
SammyS said:
The statement says that P varies linearly with T. It does not say that they are proportional.

So, there must be a nonzero y-intercept. Thanks, that clears it up!
 
Hlud said:
So, there must be a nonzero y-intercept. Thanks, that clears it up!
Yes. That's the trick.
 

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