Work-Energy theorem and kinetic energy pertaining to a car

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The discussion revolves around the Work-Energy theorem and its application to a scenario involving a car's kinetic energy as it decelerates due to braking. The original poster presents a problem involving a car with a specified mass and initial speed, detailing the energy removed by the brakes and posing questions about the final speed and energy transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the Work-Energy theorem to find the final speed of the car after a specified amount of energy is removed. They express uncertainty about their calculations and the concept of work. Other participants question the application of the formula and the interpretation of energy removal, with some suggesting alternative formulations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing corrections and suggestions for recalculating values. There is a recognition of confusion regarding the energy transformation process, particularly in relation to thermal energy and friction. While some calculations have been clarified, there is no explicit consensus on the final interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential calculation errors and misunderstandings about the definitions of work and energy in this context. The original poster's concerns about the nature of energy removal and its implications are also highlighted.

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Homework Statement



An 1,100 kg car is traveling 46 km/h on a level road. The brakes are applied long enough to remove 51 kJ of energy.

A. What is the final speed of the car?

B. How much more kinetic energy must be removed by the brakes to stop the car?

C. Is this energy really being "removed?" Where does it "go?"


Homework Equations



Work = [Final kinetic energy] - [Initial kinetic energy]

Kinetic energy = (1/2)mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution



Part A Attempt:

I started out by using the first equation, abbreviated as:

W = KE(f) - KE(i)

I then converted 51 kJ into 51,000 J and put that value in for "work." After that, I substituted the KE values for (1/2)mv^2 according to the second equation I listed.

51,000 J = [(1/2)mv^2] - [(1/2)mv^2]

I plugged in some more values. In order to get the units to come out as Joules, I had to convert 46 km/h for the initial veloctity to 12.7777... m/s.

51,000 J = [(1/2)*(1,100 kg)*(v^2)] - [(1/2)*(1,100 kg)*(12.777777... m/s)^2]
51,000 J = [550 kg*v^2] - [7027.77777... J]
58027.777... J = [550 kg*v^2]
v^2=105.5050505...
v=10.27...
v=10 m/s

This is the value I got for the final speed of the car. However, I can't shake off the feeling that I did something wrong here. I still don't fully understand what work exactly is. Was I right in inserting 51,000 J into that equation for W?

Part B Attempt:

This is a little easier. Using the 10 m/s value I obtained from the previous problem:

KE = (1/2)mv^2
KE = (1/2)(1,100 kg)(10 m/s)2
KE = 55,000 J


Part C Attempt:

I am confused on where the energy actually goes. I think it gets converted into thermal energy because the energy used for the brake gets released as gas into the atmosphere. Again, I'm not 100% sure on this.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
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In this problem the energy is removed from the system. So the formula should be

Work = [Initial kinetic energy] - [Final kinetic energy]
-(51,000 J) = [(1/2)*(1,100 kg)*(v^2)] - [(1/2)*(1,100 kg)*(12.777777... m/s)^2]
 
That would give me a negative value of 79.9 to take the square root of, which is imaginary. Or do I disregard the negative?

EDIT: Never mind, this worked out perfectly for part a and I ended up getting 8.4 m/s. Now it's just part c that confuses me.

EDIT Again: I figured out Part C. It's heat energy due to friction.


Thanks rl.bhat!
 
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Check your calculations.
Initial KE = (1/2)*(1.100kg0*(12.7777)^2 J
Energy removed = 51000 J
Now find the final KE and final speed.
 
My calculation mistake was a pretty sheepish one...not squaring the velocity.
 

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