Work Question involving Cheese, an elevator, and a cable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done on a block of cheese in an elevator system. The first part involves determining the work done by the cable force when the elevator moves a distance of 2.40 m, given a normal force of 3.00 N on the cheese. The second part requires finding the normal force when the work done by the cable over a distance of 10.5 m is known to be 92.61 kJ. Participants suggest using the acceleration of the elevator to analyze forces acting on the cheese, emphasizing that the cheese and elevator share the same acceleration. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement


•••23 In Figure 7-34, a 0.250 kg block of cheese lies on the floor of a 900 kg elevator cab that is being pulled upward by a cable through distance d1 = 2.40 m and then through distance d2 = 10.5 m. (a) Through d1, if the normal force on the block from the floor has constant magnitude FN = 3.00 N, how much work is done on the cab by the force from the cable? (b) Through d2, if the work done on the cab by the (constant) force from the cable is 92.61 kJ, what is the magnitude of FN?

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Homework Equations


Fn = Sum of forces down - Sum of forces up?
Wft = F*d*cos0


The Attempt at a Solution


Fn = 900g + .25g - Ft
3 = 900g + .25g
3 - (900 + .25)g = - Ft
Ft = 8828.5

WFt= 8828.5 (2.4) = 21188.4 J

Answer: 25900 J
 
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RoganSarine said:
Fn = Sum of forces down - Sum of forces up?
Only if the acceleration is zero.

The Attempt at a Solution


Fn = 900g + .25g - Ft
3 = 900g + .25g
3 - (900 + .25)g = - Ft
Ft = 8828.5

WFt= 8828.5 (2.4) = 21188.4 J
I don't understand what you're doing here. Hint: Find the acceleration of the elevator by analyzing the forces on the cheese.
 
How does the acceleration help me though?

Find the acceleration of the cheese to use in the elevator system using

F = ma

And then solve for tension that way?
 
Exactly. The cheese and the elevator have the same acceleration.
 
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