Calculating Young's Modulus for CopperWhat is the Young's Modulus for copper?

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The discussion focuses on calculating Young's Modulus for copper, with the initial stress and strain values provided. The correct calculation yields a Young's Modulus of 4x10^9 Pa. For the tensile force needed to reach the elastic limit with a 1 mm² cross-sectional area, the user initially miscalculated due to unit conversion errors, leading to confusion between Pascals and Newtons. After clarification on unit conversions, the correct force calculation is established as 140 Pa. The conversation also touches on the challenges of using different measurement systems and the user's transition from carpentry to studying physics.
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Got exams in January so just want to make sure I am correct the questions read exactly like this

a) The sample of copper wire reached its elastic limit when the stress is 1.4x10^8 Pa and the strain is 0.035 Calculate the Young's Modulus for copper.

My attempt is Y= Stress/Strain => Y= 140000000/0.035 => 4,000,000,000 => 4x10^9

Hope this part is correct

b) What tensil force would be needed to reach the elastic limit of the copper wire of cross sectional area 1mm sq

F = Force A= Area e= extention Y= Young's Modulus l = lenght

My attempt is F= (A x e x Y) / l => F= (0.001 x 0.035 x 4,000,000,000) / 1 => 140,000 => 1.4x10^5

I took my length as 1m and extention was 0.035m from the original strain = 0.035

not sure if I am right as I have no contact with my lecturures until my exam I ask if somebody could tell me if my work is right or wrong and where I have gone wrong if so

Thx Paul
 
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Got exams in January so just want to make sure I am correct the questions read exactly like this

a) The sample of copper wire reached its elastic limit when the stress is 1.4x10^8 Pa and the strain is 0.035 Calculate the Young's Modulus for copper.

My attempt is Y= Stress/Strain => Y= 140000000/0.035 => 4,000,000,000 => 4x10^9

Hope this part is correct
yes, but don't forget the units!
b) What tensil force would be needed to reach the elastic limit of the copper wire of cross sectional area 1mm sq

F = Force A= Area e= extention Y= Young's Modulus l = lenght

My attempt is F= (A x e x Y) / l => F= (0.001 x 0.035 x 4,000,000,000) / 1 => 140,000 => 1.4x10^5

I took my length as 1m and extention was 0.035m from the original strain = 0.035

not sure if I am right as I have no contact with my lecturures until my exam I ask if somebody could tell me if my work is right or wrong and where I have gone wrong if so

Thx Paul
Why go through all this when Tensile Stress = Tensile Force/Cross Section Area?

Units?

Check conversion from mm^2 to m^2.
 
Ah yes I see that F= 140000000 x 0.001

so my answer with units should be F= 1.4x10^5 Pa ?
 
While I like the SI system in Physics, I don't like it at all in Engineering. Partly because I'm from the USA, and partly because I can't handle all those darn zero's before or after the decimal point. Regardless, 1 mm2 is 0.000 001 m2, or 1 X 10-6 m2. Please confirm.
 
Ah thanks my conversions need a lot of work but now i see 1mm^2 = 1/(1000x1000)

1x10^-6 so my new equation is F = 140000000 x 0.000001 => 140 Pa

Thx all for helping me
 
A Pa is a stress unit (1 Pa = 1 N/m2). Forces are measured in Newtons. Are you from the contiguous 48?
 
Ah sorry I am being dumb today, I was thinking a Newton was a Pascal, think maybe I should take a break from this study for a day ;p
and nope not from the contiguous 48 as much as I would love to live there and study at MIT
I am English just got back into studying I am a Carpenter by trade and looking for a new direction been accepted into University if I get this Maths and Physics courses mastered :)
 
How do you buy apples and bananas, by the pound, kilo, Newtons, or is it stones?:wink:
 
Well tbh I by per bag :p but when I was just a lad I worked on a fruit stall selling them in lbs but then it all went metric so is kilo now :)
 
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:cool:Cool. The feds have been trying to get us to convert to metric for the past 40 years...we just ignore them... we buy them by the pound...

Best of luck in your studies!

Happy New Year!:smile:
 
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Haha change over its for the best :) thanks for all the help and the nice chat
All the best for new year
 

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