Can You Divide When Formally Proving Trig Identities?

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When proving trigonometric identities, dividing by a trigonometric function that may equal zero is generally accepted, as the goal is to demonstrate the identity for all valid angles. The discussion highlights that while formal algebraic rules may suggest caution, the focus in these exercises is on practicing standard trigonometric identities rather than on strict algebraic limitations. It is noted that adding caveats about undefined values would detract from the learning experience and could confuse students. The conversation also touches on the idea that introducing factors that are identically zero could lead to incorrect conclusions and poor grades. Overall, the consensus is that practical application takes precedence over pedantic concerns in this context.
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When formally proving trig identities using algebra are you allowed to divide? Ordinarily I wouldn't think twice about this. Sure, the trig function by which you are dividing might take on 0, but not for all angles. We divide by potential zeros all the time.

My advisor was being very coy about the answer and it was kind of obnoxious. I know that in some constructions of the rational numbers from the integers you can't formally "divide" because, given the integers, you can't define it as an operation.

Is the trig "issue" related? I can't find anything on Google so I think he's being overly Socratic.
 
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If it is an identity, then you will end up with a correct formula for all cases when you are not dividing by 0. Those cases can then be inferred as limits.
 
When you are "formally proving trig identities", most likely the purpose of the exercise is to make you practise using standard formulas (e.g cos^2 x + sin^2 x = 1, etc) not worrying about the finer points of algebra. You don't normally bother about the fact that functions like tan, cot, sec, cosec are undefined for some angles either.

It would be pedantic to add "except when x = some particular values" to every exercise like this. It wouldn't add any value to the exercise, and might make some students go off in completely the wrong direction.

Of course if you deliberately introduce a new factor like (1 - cos^2 x - sin^2 x) which is identically zero, you will probably get what you deserve (i.e. zero marks!)
 
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