Designing a three phase permenent magnet generator

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The discussion centers on the design of a three-phase permanent magnet generator and the relationship between magnet thickness and induced voltage. The user notes that doubling the thickness of NdFeB magnets only resulted in a 15% increase in voltage, contrary to the expectation of doubling it. Key factors influencing voltage include angular velocity, pole strength, flux density, energy product, and magnet thickness. It is suggested that the increased thickness may not be effectively contributing to the magnetic field at the coil due to distance. The user seeks clarification on whether their assumption about thickness directly correlating to voltage is correct.
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I am designing a three phase permenent magnet generator , and have a question.
as a magnet pair passes over a coil , inducing a voltage, that voltage is most dependent on ?
1) the angular velocity ( that's a given)
2) the pole strength
3) flux density
4) energy product.
5) thickness of the magnet ( not the width / length or diameter)

Assuming the diameter of the magnet is in the correct proportion to the coil for a three phase generator how is the the thickness of the magnet related to the induced voltage?
I have experimented with this , using 7/8" dia x 1/2" and 7/8" dia x 1" NdFeB magnets , with the same air gap , same coil , doubling the thickness only produced a 15 percent increase in voltage . why?
I was expecting to double the induced voltage .
 
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willib said:
Assuming the diameter of the magnet is in the correct proportion to the coil for a three phase generator how is the the thickness of the magnet related to the induced voltage?
I have experimented with this , using 7/8" dia x 1/2" and 7/8" dia x 1" NdFeB magnets , with the same air gap , same coil , doubling the thickness only produced a 15 percent increase in voltage . why?
I was expecting to double the induced voltage .
Can you provide a simple diagram of the geometry. It may just be that you are adding the extra thickness at a greater distance from the coil, and hence, not providing twice the field at the coil.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Can you provide a simple diagram of the geometry. It may just be that you are adding the extra thickness at a greater distance from the coil, and hence, not providing twice the field at the coil.
yes i have diagrams , but would like to ask first , are my thoughts on doubling the thickness , and hence getting double the voltage , essentially correct?
 
Gokul43201,
have you checked your private messages , i sent you one on feb 7th.
i don't know who else to turn to for an answer, the gap is adjustable and is essentially the same @ 0.460" , for both tests.
my test coils are 0.390" thick. i have several.
0.035" space top and bottom..
this is a dual rotor machine 24 poles , 48 magnets
magnets are 7/8" dia , coils are 1.75" dia,with a 7/8" hole
rotors are 10.8" dia
 
Thanks for the reply , i really appreciate it
 
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