Simple question regarding relay

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The discussion revolves around the implementation of a latching relay in a small electronics project. Participants explore various methods to achieve a latching mechanism using relays, including circuit designs and components like push-button switches and photo resistors. The conversation also touches on personal experiences with electronics kits and project ideas.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their struggle to implement a latching relay and suggests connecting the common end of the switch with a voltage, which did not work.
  • Another participant proposes using the relay contacts to complete the circuit for the coil current and suggests a normally closed push-button switch to reset it.
  • A third participant confirms the concept of a latching relay and provides additional details on wiring and voltage considerations, mentioning the use of a 3PST relay if necessary.
  • One participant shares their success in implementing a laser security system using the discussed relay setup and offers to share the design.
  • Several participants engage in a light-hearted exchange about their backgrounds and experiences with electronics, including the use of photo resistors and BJT circuits.
  • There is a discussion about an electronics kit, with participants sharing their experiences and asking questions about its specifications and power requirements.
  • Concerns are raised about using a wall adapter for the kit, with one participant emphasizing the need for clean DC power and the varying voltage requirements of different projects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of using a latching relay and share various approaches, but there are differing opinions on specific implementations and the suitability of power sources for electronics projects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for powering the electronics kit.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the exact specifications of the electronics kit and the implications of using different power sources. There are also unresolved questions about the effectiveness of certain circuit designs and components.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics projects, particularly those involving relays, circuit design, and DIY electronics kits, may find this discussion beneficial.

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I've bashed my heads through walls trying to make this work. I have a small project that is done except this part. I want to use a relays (5 pins) as switch such that when switch switches to the other end, it gets stuck there until it is reset from an external push-button.

One of the solutions that I tried that theoretically should work is to connect the common the end of the switch with a voltage applied to it, but didn't work...
 
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Use the contacts to complete the circuit for the coil current. Use a normally closed push button switch to interrupt this current to reset it.
 
Yeah; it's called a 'latching relay'. As Average said, you just use the secondary contacts as part of the primary coil circuit. Bypass them with a parallel-wired switch to energize it in the first place, and have a second cut-out switch in series to turn it off. If further info is needed, I can post a diagram later.
By the way, both sides of the switched circuit have to be running from the same voltage (or at least close enough that the coil can handle the power from the secondary supply). If not, use a 3PST relay (6 pins) and take the 'loop' power from the primary supply through the normally unused pins.
 
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Thanks a lot guys. It worked. I basically implemented one of those laser security systems (If you bass through the laser beam, an alarm sounds) for about 3$. Contact me if you want the design, it's really simple.
 
I just might do that, Dr. It would be handy for me, not as an alarm but rather a trigger for some electronic home decorations.
 
(I'm not really a Dr. don't know why i made that name when i first registered couple of years back, I'm an undergrad student graduating in few days :p )

I used a photo resistor at the base of a BJT with another one acting for the voltage divisor. When light shines on the photo resistor (should be bright light) resistance drops to zero and BJT would be effectively grounded and thus turned off. I'm sure that's how you thought of it.
 
DrKareem said:
I'm not really a Dr.
Actually, I just abbreviated your name as I do most others because it's easier to type. :biggrin:

DrKareem said:
I'm sure that's how you thought of it.
I did not, in fact, think of it at all. I know virtually nothing about electronics. I can, however, follow a schematic to build something. I know that I have plans for some photocell circuits somewhere. In fact, I just bought myself one of those 200-experiment electronics kits ($10 at a 2nd hand store) to try and teach myself how things work, but W won't let me play with it in the house. (Just have to do it when she's on night shift and put it away before she gets home. :devil: ) It has a photo emitter/detector set included, and an instruction book.
 
Danger said:
Actually, I just abbreviated your name as I do most others because it's easier to type. :biggrin:


I did not, in fact, think of it at all. I know virtually nothing about electronics. I can, however, follow a schematic to build something. I know that I have plans for some photocell circuits somewhere. In fact, I just bought myself one of those 200-experiment electronics kits ($10 at a 2nd hand store) to try and teach myself how things work, but W won't let me play with it in the house. (Just have to do it when she's on night shift and put it away before she gets home. :devil: ) It has a photo emitter/detector set included, and an instruction book.

Can you describe that kit for me danger? I have one from many years ago and had a lot of fun with it. I'm wondering if they are the same. Did you get the manual for it?

Danger said:
Yeah; it's called a 'latching relay'. As Average said...

That's Averagesupernova to you buster. :-p
 
Averagesupernova said:
That's Averagesupernova to you buster. :-p
Bite me. And the fight is on... :biggrin:

It's the Science Fair 200-in-1 Electronic Project Kit. There is indeed a manual, the copyright for which reads 'c 1987 InterTAN CANADA LTD.'
 
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Is the battery holder in plain site or is it underneath?
 
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I haven't used the thing yet; just glanced at it when I first got it. I believe that it's a 2 x 'D' cell unit on top in the far right corner, but I can't be sure until I look again tonight. I'll probably bypass it and use a wall adapter instead.
 
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Umm, no. Not likely the wall adapter will work. Most of those projects need clean DC power. Not something with ripple on it. Also, some projects need 3 volt supplies, some 4.5, some 6, and some 9. Most likely it is 6 AA batteries. I'm just wondering which one you have.
 
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Hmmm... I hadn't thought of the ripple. Anyhow, I'll look as soon as I get home from work in a couple of hours and let you know right away.
 
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Hi, I'm back; did you miss me? :shy:
Anyhow, here's a picture of it. You're right; that case is for 6x 'AA' batteries. Sorry about the picture quality. I don't really know how to use this camera for close-up stuff.

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Ok. That's the one I thought it was. I had one that is older than that. Mine had a dust cover and the batteries went in the back side under a cover.
 
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Really? Given your advanced chronology, I would have expected it to have vacuum tubes. :-p
 
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Pot... kettle... black...
 
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A tube set would have been kinda cool though. I have little experience with tubes. I guess there is nothing stopping me now from doing some tube projects.
 

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