Step-by-Step Solution for Solving Exponential Equations with Fractional Bases

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To solve the equation (1/9)^m = 81^m + 4, it's suggested to convert the terms to powers of 9 for easier manipulation. The equation can be rewritten as (9^{-1})^m = (9^2)^{m+4}, leading to -m = 2m + 8. This simplifies to -8 = 3m, resulting in m = -8/3. Proper notation and grouping are crucial for clarity in solving exponential equations.
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Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
(1/9)^m = 81^m + 4


Homework Equations


I know how to do a similar equation:
9^2p = 27^p-1

3^4p = 3^3p-1

cancel out the 3's because the base is the same.

4p = 3p-1
-3p -3p

1p = -1


The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to do ones like that but when it comes to this I start to struggle with fractions. :'(.

I'm totally lost and can't even make an attempt to this equation. I'm not asking for the answer but just a maybe the first step or something to get me on the right path.
 
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How about converting some terms to powers of 9?
 
Corkery said:

Homework Statement


Solve the equation:
(1/9)^m = 81^m + 4


Homework Equations


I know how to do a similar equation:
9^2p = 27^p-1

3^4p = 3^3p-1

cancel out the 3's because the base is the same.

4p = 3p-1
-3p -3p

1p = -1


The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to do ones like that but when it comes to this I start to struggle with fractions. :'(.

I'm totally lost and can't even make an attempt to this equation. I'm not asking for the answer but just a maybe the first step or something to get me on the right path.

(\frac{1}{9})^m = 81^{m+4}

(9^{-1})^m = (9^2)^{m+4}

(9)^{-m} = (9)^{2m+8}

-m = 2m+8

-8 = 3m

m = - \frac{8}{3}
 
Corkey,

The way you manage your notation is very important: you wrote
(1/9)^m = 81^m + 4


2. Homework Equations
I know how to do a similar equation:
9^2p = 27^p-1

3^4p = 3^3p-1

cancel out the 3's because the base is the same.

4p = 3p-1
-3p -3p

1p = -1
which showed your original equation of difficulty to be very different from what you meant. In simple text-based expressiveness, you needed proper grouping saying (1/9)^m = 81^(m+4); The way you first wrote it, the "4" was not included as part of the exponent.
 
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Since ##px^9+q## is the factor, then ##x^9=\frac{-q}{p}## will be one of the roots. Let ##f(x)=27x^{18}+bx^9+70##, then: $$27\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)^2+b\left(\frac{-q}{p}\right)+70=0$$ $$b=27 \frac{q}{p}+70 \frac{p}{q}$$ $$b=\frac{27q^2+70p^2}{pq}$$ From this expression, it looks like there is no greatest value of ##b## because increasing the value of ##p## and ##q## will also increase the value of ##b##. How to find the greatest value of ##b##? Thanks
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