Problem with Path Integral Expressions in Peskin And Schroeder Section 9.1

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The forum discussion centers on the path integral expressions in Section 9.1 of "An Introduction to Quantum Field Theory" by Peskin and Schroeder. The primary focus is on understanding the derivation of the factors \(C(\epsilon)\) in the propagator expression and the implications of the momentum and coordinate indices in the integrals. Users clarify that the constant factors from Gaussian integrals are absorbed into the measure \(\mathcal{D}\phi\), which changes between equations 9.14 and the preceding equation. The discussion emphasizes the importance of precise indexing and the treatment of constants in path integral formulations.

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Hi again everyone,

I have some doubts about the path integral expressions given in Section 9.1 of Peskin and Schroeder (pg 281 and 282).

For a Weyl ordered Hamiltonian H, the propagator has the form given by equation 9.11, which reads

U(q_{0},q_{N};T) = \left(\prod_{i,k}\int dq_{k}^{i}\int \frac{dp_{k}^{i}}{2\pi}\right)\exp{\left[i\sum_{k}\left(\sum_{i}p_{k}^{i}(q_{k+1}^{i}-q_{k}^{i})-\epsilon H\left(\frac{q_{k+1}+q_{k}}{2},p_{k}\right)\right)\right]}

Now, as the authors point out, for the case when H = \frac{p^2}{2m} + V(q)[/tex], we can do the momentum integral, which is (taking the potential term out)<br /> <br /> \int\frac{dp_{k}}{2\pi}\exp{\left(i\left[p_k(q_{k+1}-q_{k})-\epsilon\frac{p_{k}^2}{2m}\right]\right) = \frac{1}{C(\epsilon)}\exp{\left[\frac{im}{2\epsilon}(q_{k+1}-q_{k})^2\right]}<br /> <br /> where<br /> <br /> C(\epsilon) = \sqrt{\frac{2\pi\epsilon}{-im}}<br /> <br /> Now, I do not understand how the distribution of factors C(\epsilon) equation 9.13 (given below) comes up. To quote the authors:<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Notice that we have one such factor for each time slice. Thus we recover expression (9.3), in discretized form, including the <i>proper</i> factors of C:<br /> <br /> &lt;br /&gt; U(q_{a},q_{b};T) = \left(\frac{1}{C(\epsilon)}\prod_{k}\int\frac{dq_{k}}{C(\epsilon)}\right)\exp\left[i\sum_{k}\left(\frac{m}{2}\frac{(q_{k+1}-q_{k})^2}{\epsilon}-\epsilon V\left(\frac{q_{k+1}+q_{k}}{2}\right)\right)\right]&lt;br /&gt; </div> </div> </blockquote><br /> So, my question is: how did we get this term:<br /> <br /> \left(\frac{1}{C(\epsilon)}\prod_{k}\int\frac{dq_{k}}{C(\epsilon)}\right)<br /> <br /> PS -- Is it because the momentum index goes from 0 to N-1 and the coordinate index goes from 1 to N-1? The momentum integral product produces N terms, so to write the coordinate integral with the same indexing as before (in the final expression), i.e. k = 1 to N-1, we factor a C(\epsilon) out?<br /> <br /> Also, in equation 9.12,<br /> <br /> U(q_{a},q_{b};T) = \left(\prod_{i}\int \mathcal{D}q(t)\mathcal{D}p(t)\right)\exp{\left[i\int_{0}^{T}dt\left(\sum_{i}p^{i}\dot{q}^{i}-H(q,p)\right)\right]}<br /> <br /> shouldn&#039;t we just write<br /> <br /> \left(\int \mathcal{D}q(t)\mathcal{D}p(t)\right)<br /> <br /> instead of<br /> <br /> \left(\prod_{i}\int \mathcal{D}q(t)\mathcal{D}p(t)\right)<br /> <br /> since the \mathcal{D} itself stands for \prod?
 
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Another query I have concerns the derivation of equation 9.14, which is

\langle \phi_{b}({\bf{x}})|e^{-iHT}|\phi_{a}({\bf{x}})\rangle = \int \mathcal{D}\phi\exp\left[i\int_{0}^{T}d^{4}x \mathcal{L}\right]

from

\langle \phi_{b}({\bf{x}})|e^{-iHT}|\phi_{a}({\bf{x}})\rangle = \int\mathcal{D}\phi\int\mathcal{D}\pi \exp{\left[i\int_{0}^{T}d^{4}x\left(\pi\dot{\phi}-\frac{1}{2}\pi^2-\frac{1}{2}(\nabla\phi)^2-V(\phi)\right)\right]}

To quote the authors,

The integration measure \mathcal{D}\phi in (9.14) again involves an awkward constant, which we do not write explicitly.

Now, I am a bit confused about the meaning of \mathcal{D}\phi in these two equations. In going from the second equation to the first, we evaluate a Gaussian integral over \pi. What happens to the constant factor that originates from this step?

Specifically,

\int \exp{(-ax^2 + bx + c)} = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a}}\exp{\left(\frac{b^2}{4a} +c\right)}

and so

\int \exp{\int d^{4}x(-a\phi^2 + b\phi + c)} = \sqrt{\frac{\pi}{a}}\exp{\int d^{4}x\exp{\left(\frac{b^2}{4a} +c\right)}
 
Anyone?
 
maverick280857 said:
What happens to the constant factor that originates from this step?
It gets absorbed into the definition of {\cal D}\phi, which changes (by that constant factor) from one equation to the next.
 
Avodyne said:
It gets absorbed into the definition of {\cal D}\phi, which changes (by that constant factor) from one equation to the next.

I see, thanks Avodyne...I just wanted to confirm that.
 

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