Calculate strain from bending moment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving an equation to calculate the bending moment from a measured strain value in a simply supported beam using a strain gauge. Participants explore the relationship between bending moment, strain, and beam properties, focusing on theoretical and mathematical aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation relating bending moment (M) to strain (ε) using the formula k = M/EI and ε(max) = kz, expressing uncertainty about their derivation.
  • The same participant clarifies that z represents the distance from the neutral layer to the outer layer, M is the bending moment, EI is the flexural stiffness, and k is the curvature of the beam.
  • Another participant confirms the correctness of the initial equations presented, providing reassurance to the first participant.
  • A later post asks how to rearrange the equation to solve for M, suggesting a potential formulation: M = I * ε(max) * E / Z.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of the initial equations presented, but the discussion remains open regarding the rearrangement for M and the implications of the derived equations.

Contextual Notes

There may be limitations in the assumptions made regarding the beam's properties and the conditions under which the strain gauge is applied, which are not fully explored in the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Simply supported beam, all values known now I believe as this is the last question on it. I have spent a long time trying to work this out:

The bending moment is to be verified using a strain gauge bonded to the outer surface of the beam at the point of max bending moment.
Derive an equation which could be used to calculate the bending moment from the measured strain value.

Homework Equations



k = M/EI
ε(max) = kz,

The Attempt at a Solution



I know the position and value of the max bending moment, so I "think" this may be correct. But I've spent so long I have confused myself a lot. Please be gentle :-)

I have come up with this so far:

k = M/EI
ε(max) = kz,

and therefore ε(max)= (z) M/(EI)

I think I've typed the above equation correctly. I mean it as follows: strain(max) = z multiplied by the result of M divided by EI.

Z is the distance from the neutral layer to the outer layer in a tensile condition.
M is bending moment
EI is flexural stiffness (E is youngs and I is 2nd moment of area)
K is curvature of the beam or could be replaced with 1/R where R is the radius of curvature in radians.

Can anyone confirm the above or point me correctly?
 
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LDC1972 said:

Homework Statement



Simply supported beam, all values known now I believe as this is the last question on it. I have spent a long time trying to work this out:

The bending moment is to be verified using a strain gauge bonded to the outer surface of the beam at the point of max bending moment.
Derive an equation which could be used to calculate the bending moment from the measured strain value.

Homework Equations



k = M/EI
ε(max) = kz,

The Attempt at a Solution



I know the position and value of the max bending moment, so I "think" this may be correct. But I've spent so long I have confused myself a lot. Please be gentle :-)

I have come up with this so far:

k = M/EI
ε(max) = kz,

and therefore ε(max)= (z) M/(EI)

I think I've typed the above equation correctly. I mean it as follows: strain(max) = z multiplied by the result of M divided by EI.

Z is the distance from the neutral layer to the outer layer in a tensile condition.
M is bending moment
EI is flexural stiffness (E is youngs and I is 2nd moment of area)
K is curvature of the beam or could be replaced with 1/R where R is the radius of curvature in radians.

Can anyone confirm the above or point me correctly?

Looks good.
 
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Thank you! So much time spent and to have an expert say "looks good" makes it so rewarding!

Have clicked your thanks button ;-)

Thanks again!
 
how would this be re-arranged for M?

M = I * εmax * E / Z
 

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