What materials are best for a high pressure face seal?

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For a high-pressure face seal design at 3000 psig, using elastomers may present challenges, especially with small threaded connections that could strip under high torque. The discussion highlights the importance of considering the seal's application, including whether it is static or dynamic, and the gas chemistry involved. An O-Ring Face Seal (ORFS) is suggested as a viable option for static applications, as it can effectively handle high pressures when properly designed. The need for flat sealing surfaces is emphasized to prevent extrusion of the O-ring. Ultimately, while elastomers may work for static seals with inert gases, dynamic applications may require alternative materials.
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Hi,
I'm doing a design which requires a face seal with internal gas pressure of 3000 psig. An elastomer face seal at that pressure may run into some issues. The threaded connection between the parts that retain the seal is small and the female thread is alum which will strip under high torque which may make using a metal seal challenging. Any material suggestions I should check out for this face seal?
Thanks!
Blake J
 
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How big is the small part that retains the seal?
What temperatures and gas chemistry does it need to handle.

Is this a rotating connection or static. Pump drive shafts sometimes employ flat ceramic face seals.

An ORFS = O-Ring Face Seal, has two flat surfaces, one with a circular groove to hold an O-ring. The O-ring seats against the outer surface of the groove. When tightened the ring is fully enclosed but any pressure pushes it against the outer joint between the surfaces. You must make sure that the faces are flat so as to prevent extrusion of the O-ring.

ORFS works quite OK at 3000 psi with hydraulic fluid. http://www.ryco.com.au/index.php?id=221
 
Thanks Baluncore, I'm going to use a face seal with an elastomer. It's a static seal for use with various inert gasses and no temperature extremes. If I bottom out metal to metal on the outside of the groove, I shouldn't have to worry about extrusion like I would if sealing in a bore w/o a backup ring.
 
Dynamic loads are a horse of a different color. An elastomer seal may not be suitable.
 
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