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What is an inertial frame? A conflict of two definitions
Good Morning (I see this has been discussed here, but I am more interested in two specific definitions and whether the conflict.) I had always thought that the definition of an inertial frame was: "A frame in which Newton's Laws are valid." A person has been arguing with me that the definition...- Trying2Learn
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- Definitions Frame Inertial Inertial frame
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Motional EMF in the frame of a moving wire
When a magnetic field is moving (moving magnet) while a wire isn’t---in the reference frame of the wire, there’s no known magnetic force/effect on the wire before the introduction of motional emf and relativity. If viewed in the reference frame of the magnetic field instead where the wire is... -
I Understanding how to derive the cross-section formula in the CoM frame
We work in natural units. Let's assume in this post that the differential cross-section of two particles that, after collision, yield ##N## particles is given by the following formula: $$d \sigma = (2\pi)^4 \delta^{(4)} (\sum p'_f - \sum p_i) \frac{1}{4 E_1 E_2 v_{rel}} \Pi_l (2m_l) \Pi_f...- JD_PM
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- Cross-section Derive Formula Frame
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- Forum: High Energy, Nuclear, Particle Physics
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Trajectory in a non inertial frame
Well, make the center of the polar coordinates at the center of the turntable, so put r along the ro initial. I am well known that to someone who is rest on the turntable, the equations will be the follow: dr/dt = ro - vt If the turntable route with angular velocity w, dtheta/dt = -wt We...- LCSphysicist
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- Frame Inertial Inertial frame Non inertial frame Trajectory
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Collision time between two rockets in one rocket's frame....
While attempting this question , velocity of ##B## wrt ##A## ,##u'_x=\frac{u_x-v}{1-u_xv/c^2}## where ##u_x=-0.6c,v=0.8c## comes out to be ##-0.945c## (approaching).. The distance between ##A## and ##B## seen by ##A## at ## t=0## is ##d=\sqrt(1-.8^2)4.2×10^8## comes out to be ##252*10^6m##...- Apashanka
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- Collision Frame Rockets Time
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Momentum and energy in Center-of-Momentum frame
To my mind because one particle has momentum ##\vec{p}## and the other one ##\vec{0}##. It is for instance necessary to find reference frame where one momentum will be for instance ##\frac{1}{2}\vec{p}## and the momentum of other particle should be ##-\frac{1}{2}\vec{p}##. So it is necessary to...- LagrangeEuler
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- Energy Frame Momentum Momentum and energy
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Derive the equation of effective force on a rotating frame about Earth
In my textbook, the effective force of a particle on a rotating frame is given as below: The diagram is: What I do not understand is the expression for Rf dotdot, which is given as below: According to the book, an arbitary vector Q can be expressed as: So Rdotdot w.r.t fixed frame can be... -
I Frame Dragging Around Spinning Black Holes: Implications
Frame dragging around a spinning black hole is generally accepted in cosmology. Does the frame dragging result solely in space-time rotating forever around the black hole, or does frame dragging ultimately result in space-time vectoring towards and into the black hole? An additional question...- Robert Friz
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- Black hole Frame Frame dragging Hole
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I CM frame kinetic energy for a molecule
Hello! When the kinetic energy of a molecule is written in its CM frame we get the formula attached. The first term is the kinetic energy of the CM frame with respect to the lab frame, the second term is the kinetic energy associated with the distance between the nuclei and the last term is the...- kelly0303
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- Energy Frame Kinetic Kinetic energy Molecule
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- Forum: Atomic and Condensed Matter
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I Comoving Reference Frame in Cosmology
In cosmology, the preferred reference frame is the comoving rest frame. I am trying to understand why we are using this frame and not another one. The only reason I could come with is this. Since the expansion of the universe is homogeneous and isotropic it seems our best choice is using the... -
I Speed of Light in Vacuum in Non-Inertial Frame
Hi, I read various threads in PF about the concept of invariant speed and the speed of light in vacuum that in our universe happens to be the same as the 'invariant speed'. My doubt is about the speed of the light in vacuum as measured from a non-inertial frame (basically in the context of SR...- cianfa72
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- Frame Light Non inertial frame Non-inertial frame Special relativity Speed Speed of light Vacuum
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I Lab frame and accelerator frame
In the file I present below,it shows a way to calculate luminosity in boost frame when crossing angle exists.I can't understand why luminosity calculation is done in boost frame instead of lab frame where calculations are much easier.I also have difficulty understanding lab frame,accelerator...- Ruihu Zhu
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- Accelerator Frame Lab Luminosity
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A Simple question on the derivative of base frame
I apologize: despite my verbosity, this is, I hope, a simple question.) Consider the following relationship between a rotating reference frame and an inertial reference frame (both Bold), through a rotation matrix: (the superscript is to designate the rotating frame e(1) and the I is for the...- Trying2Learn
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- Base Derivative Frame
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- Forum: Differential Geometry
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I Does Conservation of Momentum & Energy Hold in the C.O.M. Reference Frame?
We know classical equations fail to follow conservation of momentum and energy when we are dealing with speeds closer to the speed of light. But does it fail in the center of mass reference frame of a system?- ruivocanadense
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- Conservation Conservation of momentum Energy Frame Momentum Reference Reference frame
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B Moving Faster Than Light: Are There Symmetrical Rules?
Would it be correct to say, that we are moving away from stars at the edge of the universe, at the same rate that these stars are moving away from us? I am relating to stars that are moving in relation to us, at a speed that is faster than the speed of light. Is the symmetry that maintains that...- roineust
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- Frame Frame of reference Light Reference Speed Speed of light
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I Special Relativity & No Special Inertial Frame of Reference
As per special theory of relativity, no inertial reference frame is special! If a spaceship is moving at 100 m/s, no one can conduct an experiment to determine whether it is moving at 100 m/s or the rest of the universe is moving to the opposite direction at -100 m/s, if I understand the...- manulal
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- Frame Frame of reference Inertial Inertial frame Reference Relativity Special relativity
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Which inertial frame is used when resolving toward the centre
For simple circular motion it is common to resolve forces toward the centre and relate this to centripetal acceleration, provided that the current reference frame is inertial. However where would such a coordinate system be positioned? Since it requires one axis passing through the line...- etotheipi
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- Frame Inertial Inertial frame
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I Earth-centered frame with Earth-Sun line fixed
I have seen plenty of references to Earth centered inertial frames (axes fixed with respect to the stars) and Earth-centered Earth fixed frames (axes fixed with respect to the Earth, rotating at the Earth's angular velocity of rotation with respect to the stars). Does anyone know of a reference...- PeterDonis
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- Frame Line
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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1st Law of thermodynamics : moving reference frame
I'd like to apply the 1st law of thermodynamics in a reference frame (RF) moving with constant velocity. We have: ##\Delta{}E = E_{in} - E_{out}## I am limiting myself to rectilinear motion. Suppose we are in a RF moving with a constant velocity ##V##. Let the system consist of a mass ##m##. The...- thinkingcap81
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- Frame Law Reference Reference frame Thermodynamics
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- Forum: Thermodynamics
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I Speed of Light in Inertial Ref Frames: Photon Perspective
According to the 2nd postulate of Special Relativity, speed of light in vacuum is the same in all inertial reference frames. If I take a beam of photons and see the other photons in the beam from a frame of reference of a single photon, do they look stationary or moving at the speed of light...- Saptarshi Sarkar
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- Frame Photon Photons Special relativity Speed
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Simple Canon Question (Conservation Of Momentum): Frame of Reference
Since Pi = Pf, 0 = MbVbg + McVcg I just need to express Vbg in terms of Vbc and Vcg (that is, I need to express the velocity of the ball relative to the ground in terms that I know/want to solve for): by reference frames: Vbc = Vbg + Vcg so Vbg = Vbc -Vcg Now I can sub in and solve 0 =...- Kermit_the_Phrog
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- Conservation of momentum Frame Frame of reference Momentum Reference
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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[Special Relativity] - Finding Angle θ as Measured in Frame S
Below is the attempted solution after researching the contents available on Introduction to Electrodynamics by Griffith. To begin with, I defined the rod as having a length of ##l'## at rest in frame ##S'##. Thus, in frame ##S'##, the height of the rod is ##l' sin(\theta ')## and its horizontal...- Athenian
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- Angle Frame Relativity Special relativity
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Find the photon energy in the center of mass frame and vice versa
I tried to use the Lorentz transformation: ##E^{*}_{\gamma }=\gamma _{cm}E_{\gamma }-\beta _{cm}\gamma _{cm}p_{\gamma }## We have a photon, so it becomes: ##E^{*}_{\gamma }=\gamma _{cm}E_{\gamma }(\beta _{cm}-1)## Unfortunately, the solutions say that the correct way is to use the inverse...- lLehner95
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- Center Center of mass Energy Frame Mass Particle collision Photon
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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B Length Contraction in Accelerated Frame
I was wondering, would there be a length contraction (or expansion) in the z and y axis' if an object was accelerating in x axis? I know that in special relativity there is no deformation in the y and z axis' if the object is moving in the x axis. I was looking a this paper for clarification.- sqljunkey
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- Contraction Frame Length Length contraction Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Acceleration for a non-inertial reference frame
Well, first a wrote the equation for acceleration in non inertial systems. ##a_I=a_o+\dot \omega \times r+\omega \times (\omega \times r)+2(\omega \times v_{rel}) +a_{rel}##. Then, ##a_o=0## (because the system doesn't move), ##a_i=0## (because it is measured from the non inertial system)...- Like Tony Stark
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- Acceleration Frame Reference Reference frame
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Moment of Inertia of a Rectangular Picture Frame
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/250905 I know the answer, but am not certain how they got Lsin(angle) for R?- kepherax
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- Frame Inertia Moment Moment of inertia Picture Rectangular
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How are counts per frame calculated in CCD for spectrometry?
I don't know if this is the appropriate forum for it. But I'd like to understand the concept of counts per frame in CCD in visible or IR spectrometry. If the exposure is say 200 ms and there are 12 frames. What is the counts per frame? Do you multiply 200ms by 12 frames to come up with 2400...- new6ton
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- Ccd Frame Per
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Acceleration acting on a block lying on a wedge (non-inertial frame)
I have some difficulties trying to understand non-inertial frames. I have problems to notice the acceleration in these cases, from an inertial reference frame and from non inertial refrence frame. Consider the first case, if I'm on the wedge, I see that the block doesn't move so there's no...- Like Tony Stark
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- Acceleration Block Frame Non-inertial frame Wedge
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Measuring position and velocity from a non inertial reference frame
I) For ##A##, the positition is ##\vec r=(0;V_0 . t;0)##. For ##B##, we have ##\vec r_A=\vec r_B + \vec r_{A/B}##, but ##\vec r_{A/B}## is equal to zero because they have the same origin, so the position measured from ##A## is equal to the position measured from ##B## II) For ##A##, velocity...- Like Tony Stark
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- Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Measuring Position Reference Reference frame Velocity
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I How to make something independent of the coordinate frame?
In page 49, chap 8 of the book "classical mechanics point particles and relativity" of Greiner, there is the following sentence: "In order to become independent of the coordinate frame, a set of orthogonal unit vectors is put at the point of the trajectory of the mass point given by ##s##."...- glmhd
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- Classical mechanics Coordinate Frame Independent
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Rotational Frame Transformations
Consider a rotating disk with the center at the origin of a stationary Cartesian coordinate system, (x, y). At t = 0, on the circumference of the disk, someone/something shoots a particle with constant velocity components Dvx, Dvy (where the D indicates the rotating disk). Also at time t=0... -
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Entropy in a non inertial reference frame
I know that the entropy of a system is the same in different inertial frames. Is this still the case for non inertial frames? For example, is the entropy of a body as seen from a rotating reference frame the same as the entropy seen from a fixed frame?- hgandh
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- Entropy Frame Inertial Inertial reference frame Reference Reference frame
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B Reference frame symmetry in Special Relativity
Hello, I have a couple of questions related to reference frames in Special Relativity. Let's consider a rocket that is inertially moving towards a star with a relative velocity 0.9c. I'd like to look at this example from both the rocket's and the star's perspectives. In the reference frame of...- x-vision
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- Frame Reference Reference frame Reference frames Relativity Special relativity Symmetry Time dilatation
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B Question about the rest frame of a photon
[Mentors’ note: this thread was split from the FAQ at https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/rest-frame-of-a-photon.511170/] I am not an expert! As I understand it, Einstein considered, what a guy standing in a photon will experience if he look at his watch. My understanding says, that the...- member 342489
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- Frame Photon Rest
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B Finding the length of a metre stick from a moving frame of reference
Suppose we have a stationary metre stick with one end positioned at the origin of a stationary frame of reference, pointing along the positive x axis. The world lines of both ends of the metre stick are consequently vertical. Now consider another primed frame moving at velocity v relative to...- etotheipi
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- Frame Frame of reference Length Reference
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B What happens to speed and velocity in a rotating frame of reference?
Let's say I can see a star in a distance of 1ly in front of me. I'm sitting on an office chair and begin to rotate with a speed of 1/s (1 rotation per second). Then I consider me as not rotating and everything else as rotating. Now I will see the star traveling a circular path with the...- somega
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- Frame Rotating Rotating frame Speed
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Free fall time in an accelerating frame of reference
This is my wrong attempt, the bolt's equation for ##t\geq 2## would be ##y_b(t)=-\frac{1}{2}g(t-2)^2+e(2)+l## where ##e(t)=\frac{1}{2}wt^2## the position of the elevator's floor in the absolute frame of reference. ##d(t)=-\frac{1}{2}(w+g)t^2+2gt+2(w-g)+l## the distance between the bolt and the...- archaic
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- Fall Frame Frame of reference Free fall Reference Time
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B Attribution of Reference Frame: A Dilettante's Question
I can't find an answer on my dilettante question about how we attribute reference frame to complex objects, where different parts move with different velocity or where different parts experience different influence of gravitation. For example, we can take a human's body. If we take the full...- SteveF
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- Frame General relaivity Reference Reference frame Special relativity Time dilation
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Type of Joints in portal frame
I was told that for building portal frame, the beam to column connection must be rigid , which means, it has to be fixed , while the column to foundation connection can be either fixed or pinned, am I right ? I couldn't find anything about this online . Pls help- kitzlongg
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- Frame Joints Portal Type
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I The velocity of a moving frame of reference
In the attached fig 1 you have a moving frame of reference (MFR) moving in the direction V at velocity V Looking from above in the MFR there are 2 identical train carriages (car 1 and car 2), Car 1 is on a long set of tracks. Car 2 cannot move but is on train tracks. There are also 2 Identical...- RossBlenkinsop
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- Frame Frame of reference Reference Velocity
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I Do ##\vec E## and ##\vec B## change in a moving frame?
I want to understand how electric and magnetic fields change as measured from an inertial frame ##S## vs. as measured from an inertial frame ##\bar {S}## (which has uniform speed v wrt ##S##). I am working out the following example to do so: We have a cylindrical symmetric wire of radius R...- JD_PM
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- Change Frame
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Classical Book about center of mass frame of reference and fictitious force
Hello I have learned about conservation of momentum, Newton's law (1st, 2nd, 3rd law + free body diagram), conservation of energy and finding center of mass of several 2 D and 3 D shapes (non - calculus method). I watched youtube video about two objects connected by horizontal spring and in...- songoku
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- Book Center Center of mass Fictitious force Force Frame Frame of reference Mass Reference
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I Boosting to an instantaneous rest frame
The four-velocity and four-acceleration of a particle may be written as ## (V^\mu) = \gamma(\textbf{v},c) ## and ## (A^\mu) = \gamma \left(\frac{d\gamma}{dt}\textbf{v}+\gamma\frac{d\textbf{v}}{dt},c\frac{d\gamma}{dt} \right)##. where ## \gamma ## is the Lorentz factor, ## \textbf{v} ## is...- Geofleur
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A Can an object be at rest in its own reference frame?
In classical physics, every object is obviously at rest with itself, and it makes perfect sense for this to be true. But would this violate the uncertainty principle for a particle? If you are the particle and you know that you're at rest with respect to yourself, you know both your location...- Grasshopper
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- Frame Reference Reference frame Rest
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Solving for c: Speed of Q2 in Q1 Reference Frame
I've tried using this equation: Where: u' = 0.86c v = 0.3c u = Is the speed of Q2 as measured by an observer in the reference frame of Q1 = 0.922c Where have I gone wrong? Have I missed a negative symbol?- Pochen Liu
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- Frame Reference Reference frame Speed
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B Polarized Electron in a Rotating Reference Frame
I tried asking a similar question in cosmology but got no answer there so here goes... Suppose I am on a windowless spacecraft in the middle of an intergalactic void. I know that the spacecraft is spinning from measuring the centrifugal forces but have no way of observing the outside...- metastable
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- Electron Frame Reference Reference frame Rotating
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Restframe of Photon: Explained
Consider a mass in its restframe relative to which another mass can have an arbitrary velocity ##v < c##. Now consider a photon in its hypothetical restframe. Can a mass have an arbitrary velocity ##v < c## relative to the photon?- timmdeeg
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- Frame Photon Rest
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Question about "Rest frame of a photon" FAQ
[Moderator's note: This thread has been separated out from the FAQ entry since questions or suggestions about FAQ entries should not be cluttering up the FAQ entries themselves.] I would like to suggest that it might be more proper to base the "rest frame of a photon" theory explanation...- Wes Tausend
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Angular momentum of a system relative to a moving reference frame.
I don't have too much of a clue of how to begin the problem. I first wrote the angular moementum of the system of particles: →M=∑mi(→ri×→vi)M→=∑mi(r→i×v→i). Then I know that the angular momentum from of the moving reference frame would have the velocity as the sum of the velocity of the frame...- Davidllerenav
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- Angular Angular momemtum Angular momentum Frame Momentum Reference Reference frame Relative System
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What is the Transformation of Four-Velocity between Frames?
Rod R1 has a rest length `1m and rod R2 has rest length 2m. R1 is moving towards right with velocity v and R2 is moving towards left with velocity v with respect to lab frame. If R2 has length 1m in rest frame of R1, then v/c is what? ----------------------- I let vel of R1 be u, of R2 be w...- Kaguro
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- Frame Lab Speed
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help