2 hanging masses on Pully with friction time to reach floor?

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The problem involves two hanging masses connected by a rope over a pulley, with friction affecting the system. The goal is to determine the time it takes for one of the masses to reach the floor after being released from rest.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the acceleration of the system using equations of motion and torque, while also calculating the moment of inertia for the pulley. Other participants express their agreement with the calculations and seek confirmation of the results.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, with one suggesting a potential typo in the equations. There is an ongoing request for a second opinion to ensure the correctness of the solution, indicating a collaborative effort to verify the work presented.

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Participants note the importance of significant figures in the final answer and express concern about limited attempts remaining for the problem submission.

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Homework Statement



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The two blocks in the figure are connected by a massless rope that passes over a pulley. The pulley is 15 cm in diameter and has a mass of 2.6 kg. As the pulley turns, friction at the axle exerts a torque of magnitude 0.46 N-m.

If the blocks are released from rest, how long does it take the 4.0 kg block to reach the floor?

Homework Equations



Tnet=I\alpha

T=FD

F=ma

\alpha=a/r

Moment of inertia of a disc:
I=.5mr2

g is gravity!

The Attempt at a Solution



T1 is tension of the left mass, T2 is tension of the right mass
m1 is mass of left mass, m2 is mass of right mass
T1=-m1a+m1g
T2=m2a+m2g

\SigmaT= TT1 - TPully friction - TT2

I\alpha=TT1 - TPully friction - TT2

Ia/r=(-m1a+m1g)r - .46 - (m2a+m2g)r

Ia/r= -m1ar + m1gr - .46 -m2ar -m2gr

Ia = -m1ar2 + m1gr2 - .46r -m2ar2 -m2gr2

Ia + m1ar2 + m2ar2 = m1gr2 - .46r -m2gr2

a(I + m1r2 + m2r2) = m1gr2 - .46r -m2gr2

a = (m1gr2 - .46r -m2gr2) / (I + m1r2 + m2r2)

I=.5mr2

I = (.5)(2.6)(.075)2
I = .0073125

m1 = 4kg
m2 = 2kg
r = .075m
g=9.8

a = ((4)(9.8)(.0752) - .46(.075) -(2)(9.8)(.075)2) / (.0073125) + (4)(.075)2 + (2)(.075)2

a = (.2205 - .0345 - .11025) / (.0073125 + .0225 + .01125)

a = .07575/.0410625

a = 1.8447

yf=yi+vit+.5at^2

0=1 + 0 + .92235t^2

t=1.04124 seconds

is this correct?
 
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Just double checked with a slightly different method. Looks right to me.
 
Second opinion please anyone!

Just want to make sure! Dont have many tries left on the problem
 
If you wanted to be pedantic, to be more correct you would round to two significant figures (1.0 rather than 1.04124). Also, at this step, probably a typo but there should be a negative sign or have the 1 moved to the other side:

0=1 + 0 + .92235t^2

change to

0=-1 + 0 + .92235t^2

The answer should be right though.
 

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