6D calculation of spring-forces/moments

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The discussion centers on calculating the deformation of springs under various forces and moments for a master's thesis in electrical engineering. The user seeks to understand how to analyze stress, torsion, shear, and bending in three dimensions, with a goal of creating a visual 6D force/torque sensor. Suggestions include breaking the spring into elemental lengths for analysis, using numerical methods with discrete elements, or employing finite element analysis (FEA) for modeling. There are concerns about the complexity of measuring shear and moment loads on a spring, and alternatives such as analyzing simpler structures or limiting the number of loads are recommended. Overall, the feasibility of the proposed sensor design and the mathematical challenges involved are questioned.
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Hi,

I'm a student in electrical engineering and I'm writing my master thesis at the moment. Ironically I'm now confronted with the deformation of springs. I'm not a physics (!) but I think and hope that you may can help me. Simple push and pull forces are not the problem.
I need to calculate all possible moments and forces and all possible combinations which can act on a spring. So I need to cover stress, torsion, shear, bending in all three spatial directions. My advisors told me to have a look at the beam theory but I didn't found an analogy for springs.

Can you help me?

Thanks in advance,
Helferlein
 
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Why do you need to do this ??
 
Nidum said:
Why do you need to do this ??

The goal is to record the deformation with a camera and get the applied forces and moments out of this. It's some kind of a visual 6D force/torch sensor.
 
So you have a simple helical wire spring anchored at one end and free to move in all directions at the other end ?

There is nothing intrinsically difficult about working out the deflection of a spring under compound loading . Might take you a while though .

Conceptually you have to break the spring down into elemental lengths and match forces and deflections between adjacent elements all along the spring using analytic methods .

There is also an approximate method where it is assumed that the several types of flexure do not interact and that they can be analysed independently .

Alternatively use a numerical method based on a chain of discrete elements each of which consists of one full turn of the spring . Using matrix methods and some computer time a good model of the spring response could be developed .

Personally I would use FEA or just buy a spring and test it .
 
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Just note :

There are lot's of other ways to design an all axis sensor .

Almost certainly there are better ways of doing what you want than monitoring the movement of the end of a single spring .

In any case a different concept for the sensor design might well make the maths much easier .
 
This application sounds questionable... While it would be reasonably easy to measure length change with a vision system and correlate with the force applied to a compressing a spring, it will be very difficult to calculate/decompose some of the more complicated shear or moment loads (especially out-of-plane ones) you could "in theory" apply to a spring.

My recommendations if you're stuck to the vision system is:
  1. Choose a simpler structure to analyze, like a simple cross-section fixed-end beam (Wikipedia: Beam Bending)
  2. Limit the number of loads you're planning to determine, it isn't realistic to think you can decompose more than 2 or 3 of combined loads on a complex structure via analytical means.
  3. Alternatively, you might consider developing a vision system which uses a photoelastic method for determining stress in parts via stress birefringence.
 
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